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1 posted on 03/01/2002 1:45:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
this husband is equally responsible for the deaths of his children. those living conditions were untenable and this woman did everything but draw him a map of what she would eventually end up doing. it does not excuse her in the slightest, but he is equally culpable.
2 posted on 03/01/2002 1:54:47 AM PST by xsmommy
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3 posted on 03/01/2002 1:58:44 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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These people are just crazy. Trying to call them Conservatives , is also crazy !

I heard a brief report, on the radio ( and no other source has picked it up, that I know of ) , that they belong to a cult like , way out there , sort of Christian sect , with rules that make the Taliban appear to be " gentle ". Women are ALL supposedly EVIL, and that Eve was EVIL and allied with Satan , so ... women were all evil too. Mrs. Yates HAS claimed that she was " evil " and Satan, and I think that her husband is as guilty as she is ; he turned her into this monster. It was he, who met the leaders of this " religion ", while he was in college, and brought his wife into it.

I'd go insane too, if I were married for 4 1/2 years , with three children, pregnat with another, lived in a damned bus, and was allowed 3 hours a week, for myself. YUCK !

4 posted on 03/01/2002 2:02:07 AM PST by nopardons
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i think they are both nutjobs, (in the sense that their 'lifestyle' is pretty damn strange to me)
but that doesnt excuse anything.
they should hang him from the highest tree in texas..
and that would be too good for him.
they should send her to live with the taliban, and see what sort of sympathy she gets there.
5 posted on 03/01/2002 2:02:34 AM PST by wafflehouse
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At the very least, the husband is a liar, a cheat and a swindler. He sells her this deal "man breadwinner, woman homemaker"... and then takes the friggin home away from her and makes her live in a friggin bus! What a lousy piece'o'crap "breadwinner".

I'm not defending the woman. She could have run away. Anything other than kill her kids. She deserves whatever the judge and jury decide is appropriate for her.

But that husband. What a loser.

7 posted on 03/01/2002 2:05:44 AM PST by samtheman
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Mr. Yates, 37, told the jury that he and his wife agreed before their wedding in 1993 to a "traditional" marriage in which he would serve as sole breadwinner and she would be homemaker.

That's a "traditional" marriage? I thought a traditional marriage was one in which the man sat around in his underwear all weekend watching football and drinking beer while the woman nagged him incessantly about cleaning the garage and painting the baby's room and never "taking her out anywhere."

"Were you listening to me at all? Did you listen to a word I said? Okay, tell me what I just said!"

13 posted on 03/01/2002 2:27:49 AM PST by SamAdams76
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I sincerely wish that Mr. Yates was also on trial as an accomplish for this grisly crime. That man is a walking horror....
15 posted on 03/01/2002 2:32:45 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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Her hair greasy and matted, her body reeking, Mrs. Yates was a walking zombie then, Mrs. Holmes said.

But yet her husband wanted to have more children. The more I learn about this case, the more I feel he should be on trial with Andrea.

16 posted on 03/01/2002 2:34:45 AM PST by Brownie74
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Funny how almost everyone on this thread seems to assume the husband is a liar and accepts the liberal media spin that he deserves to be hanged.

Are all individuals responsible for their own actions?

Or only the men?

Fry her.

33 posted on 03/01/2002 3:00:31 AM PST by wotan
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The wrong person is in jail. He's inhuman.
45 posted on 03/01/2002 3:13:44 AM PST by mombonn
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Hmmmmmmmm

8:10 Pour hot coffee . . . on childrens' buttocks for not dressing fast enough. . .

9:05 Take anti-psychotic medicine and handcuff self to doorknob until medicine takes effect to keep from killing pets . . .

10:00 Force homeschooled children to recite the Old Testement vebatim ti show their committment to God . . .

11:00 Drown children . .

11:15 Make birthday cake for husband

53 posted on 03/01/2002 3:23:53 AM PST by anton
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He's taking the blame for her actions in order to save her life.
69 posted on 03/01/2002 3:58:03 AM PST by OldFriend
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Of course the primary focus is how "crazy" and out of touch Christians are. The fact that they were living in a bus with 4 small children is no excuse either. My mother and father lived in a trailer much smaller than a greyhound bus with 4 of us kids 4 years old and under and we all ended up not being killed.

She's guilty and if she gets away with it then every mother who has a hard life and doesn't have the emotional strength to handle it is going to get away with murder.

78 posted on 03/01/2002 4:19:49 AM PST by DouglasKC
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Rusty is gonna look worse before this is over. Stay tuned.
80 posted on 03/01/2002 4:24:29 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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Why isn't Mr. Yates on trial with her? What a jerk.
81 posted on 03/01/2002 4:26:13 AM PST by InvisibleChurch
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The husband as breadwinner, the wife as homemaker and mother
natural childbirth
home schooling

Don't buy into the line that these things were enough to cause the problems Andrea Yates had. I have lived like this for 25 years and know lots of other happy, well-adjusted families who do also.

90 posted on 03/01/2002 4:33:57 AM PST by knuthom
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The pact included being a stay-at-home mother, primary caregiver and, eventually, home-school teacher. Mr. Yates said that he controlled the cash and that she stuck carefully to an allowance.

All you "ree-tards" (to use the Texas term) are completely oblivious to the fact that this is an attack on "conservative Christians." Every one of you BACs can be portrayed this way.

This woman was nothing but a cold-hearted murderer. Dressing her up as a victim of the patriarchy is outrageous, but it will likely get her acquitted.

If that happens, she will be yet another example of the success of the "O. J. Defense": Blame everyone and everything, society, racism, male chauvinism, whatever it takes, to get a murderer off.

Women should never be allowed to sit on juries. Justice is too precious.

92 posted on 03/01/2002 4:35:25 AM PST by Illbay
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The pact included being a stay-at-home mother, primary caregiver and, eventually, home-school teacher. Mr. Yates said that he controlled the cash and that she stuck carefully to an allowance.

All you "ree-tards" (to use the Texas term) are completely oblivious to the fact that this is an attack on "conservative Christians." Every one of you BACs can be portrayed this way.

This woman was nothing but a cold-hearted murderer. Dressing her up as a victim of the patriarchy is outrageous, but it will likely get her acquitted.

If that happens, she will be yet another example of the success of the "O. J. Defense": Blame everyone and everything, society, racism, male chauvinism, whatever it takes, to get a murderer off.

Women should never be allowed to sit on juries. Justice is too precious.

93 posted on 03/01/2002 4:35:50 AM PST by Illbay
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Four days before she drowned her children, Mrs. Yates awoke screaming that she was trapped. As her husband comforted her, she told him about her nightmare. "Something about in her dream she was trapped in her bed," Mr. Yates said.

This story is not a great advertisement for the benefits of home schooling combined with traditional stay-at-home mothering.

122 posted on 03/01/2002 5:03:30 AM PST by ThreeOfSeven
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When pressure from raising their children appeared to be getting to Mrs. Yates, she could always look forward to Thursdays. Mr. Yates testified that for three hours once each week from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. Mrs. Yates could do whatever she wanted, alone, without the children.

They should throw away the key on him also .. He is just as guilty as she is ..

135 posted on 03/01/2002 5:17:48 AM PST by Mo1
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