Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

U.C. San Diego Darwinists Exaggerate Research Results to Promote Theory, Says Discovery Institute
US Newswire ^ | 02.06.02 | US Newswire

Posted on 02/06/2002 5:59:35 AM PST by callisto

SEATTLE, Feb. 6 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A mutant shrimp is being claimed as "a landmark in evolutionary biology" that proves creationists wrong, but it's not. Whatever its implications for creationism, molecular biologist Jonathan Wells, a senior fellow at Discovery Institute in Seattle, Wash., calls the claim "greatly exaggerated," and describes the mutant shrimp as "an evolutionary dead end that tells us little or nothing about how insects might have originated."

A research team headed by William McGinnis at the University of California at San Diego just reported discovering a DNA mutation that produces shrimp without hind legs. Since shrimp normally have lots of legs, and insects have only six, the researchers claim they have discovered the genetic mechanism that caused terrestrial insects to evolve from aquatic ancestors hundreds of millions of years ago. The researchers also claim that this discovery undercuts a primary argument used by creationists against the theory of evolution, because it shows that major mutations do not result in dead animals.

The paper is being released today by the journal Nature.

Wells points out, however, that the mutation reported by McGinnis and his colleagues occurs midway through development, after the embryo is already a shrimp. "The mutation does not transform the embryo into anything like an insect, but only into a disabled shrimp. Whatever produced the first insect would have had to transform the embryo from the very beginning." Wells adds that critics of Darwinism have never claimed that major mutations result in dead animals, but only in animals that are less fit, and thus likely to be eliminated by natural selection. According to Wells, "this report does nothing to refute that criticism."

Wells says he is not surprised that the researchers are making so much of their discovery. "Evidence for the major changes required by evolutionary theory is lacking, so Darwinists often exaggerate the evidence to make the theory seem better supported than it really is."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crevolist
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-73 next last

1 posted on 02/06/2002 5:59:36 AM PST by callisto
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: callisto
bump
2 posted on 02/06/2002 6:30:33 AM PST by VOA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: callisto
A research team headed by William McGinnis at the University of California at San Diego just reported discovering a DNA mutation that produces shrimp without hind legs. Since shrimp normally have lots of legs, and insects have only six, the researchers claim they have discovered the genetic mechanism that caused terrestrial insects to evolve from aquatic ancestors hundreds of millions of years ago

And for their next act, the evolutionists will proceed to demonstrate how the cow evolved from the pine tree.

For those of you who'd like to play at home, here's a model of a cow, which when printed, will be made from the byproducts of a tree :)


3 posted on 02/06/2002 6:42:29 AM PST by Alex Murphy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
LOL!
4 posted on 02/06/2002 6:48:16 AM PST by callisto
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
Sorry, that's not a pine tree. Looks more like a Lombardy poplar from here. And, everybody knows that cows did not evolve from Lombardy Poplars.....
5 posted on 02/06/2002 6:51:05 AM PST by KeepUSfree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: *crevo_list
bump
6 posted on 02/06/2002 6:57:01 AM PST by Gladwin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
And for their next act, the evolutionists will proceed to demonstrate how the cow evolved from the pine tree

That's *so* silly. After all, everyone knows that we all came from Adam & Eve and the Earth is only 6,000 years old....

7 posted on 02/06/2002 7:05:46 AM PST by gdani
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: callisto
This piece reads more like propaganda than a legitimate, objective, news article. Might it be possible this "newswire" is really a creationist front?
8 posted on 02/06/2002 8:40:43 AM PST by Junior
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Junior
In lieu of all of the 'evolutionist' fronts?

National Geographic,
Scientific American,
99% of American school books,
......... [feel free to add more here]........

9 posted on 02/06/2002 8:56:27 AM PST by Elsie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: KeepUSfree
And, everybody knows that cows did not evolve from Lombardy Poplars.....

I'm so ashamed! Yes, my research was shoddy and ill-thought! The correct evolutionary tree for the Lombardy Poplar would be this:

For those of you still playing along at home, here some bonus pics. Here we can see the Lombardy Poplar caught in the act of evolutionary natural selection...

...And a rare shot of the Lombary Poplar installing the Internet, which he had just invented days prior...


10 posted on 02/06/2002 9:29:27 AM PST by Alex Murphy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
Loved your evolution in action shots! Althought I think the tree has a much more expressive face than the "evolved" creature, Al Gore (also inventor of GoreBull Warming theory).
11 posted on 02/06/2002 9:38:14 AM PST by texson66
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Junior
Nahh, it just means that the Discovery Institute likes to release positive sounding press releases. Because we all know that DI is a highly prestigious scientific institution working around the clock to bring a testable theory of Intelligent Design to a scientific journal, right? (If you believe that, I have a bridge in NYC to sell you).
12 posted on 02/06/2002 9:45:47 AM PST by ThinkPlease
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ThinkPlease
Nahh, it just means that the Discovery Institute likes to release positive sounding press releases. Because we all know that DI is a highly prestigious scientific institution working around the clock to bring a testable theory of Intelligent Design to a scientific journal, right? (If you believe that, I have a bridge in NYC to sell you).

None of which addresses the core issue of the press release - were the test results exaggerated or not? Why does it matter who the whistle-blower is, if the allegations have any merit?

13 posted on 02/06/2002 9:56:05 AM PST by Alex Murphy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
None of which addresses the core issue of the press release - were the test results exaggerated or not? Why does it matter who the whistle-blower is, if the allegations have any merit?

Good question. I'll have to see when the new jounal is published online (theoretically today), since my institution has an online sub. Usually, they have a valid point if it makes it into a journal like nature, though.

14 posted on 02/06/2002 10:15:07 AM PST by ThinkPlease
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ThinkPlease
Found it.

Don't know if you can read this(subscription necessary?) Abstract (or at least the first paragraph):

A fascinating question in biology is how molecular changes in developmental pathways lead to macroevolutionary changes in morphology. Mutations in homeotic (Hox) genes have long been suggested as potential causes of morphological evolution(1,2), and there is abundant evidence that some changes in Hox expression patterns correlate with transitions in animal axial pattern(3) . A major morphological transition in metazoans occurred about 400 million years ago, when six-legged insects diverged from crustacean-like arthropod ancestors with multiple limbs(4-7_. In Drosophila melanogaster and other insects, the Ultrabithorax (Ubx) and abdominal A (AbdA, also abd-A) Hox proteins are expressed largely in the abdominal segments, where they can suppress thoracic leg development during embryogenesis(3) . In a branchiopod crustacean, Ubx/AbdA proteins are expressed in both thorax and abdomen, including the limb primordia, but do not repress limbs(8-11) . Previous studies led us to propose that gain and loss of transcriptional activation and repression functions in Hox proteins was a plausible mechanism to diversify morphology during animal evolution(12) . Here we show that naturally selected alteration of the Ubx protein is linked to the evolutionary transition to hexapod limb pattern.

1. Goldschmidt, R. The Material Basis of Evolution (Yale Univ. Press, New Haven, Connecticut, 1940)

2. Lewis, E. B. A gene complex controlling segmentation in Drosophila. Nature 276, 565-570 (1978)

3. Carroll, S. B., Grenier, J. K. & Weatherbee, S. D. From DNA to Diversity (Blackwell Science, London, 2001)

4. Boore, J. L., Collins, T. M., Stanton, D., Daehler, L. L. & Brown, W. M. Deducing the pattern of arthropod phylogeny from mitochondrial DNA rearrangements. Nature 376, 163-165 (1995)

5. Friedrich, M. & Tautz, D. Ribosomal DNA phylogeny of the major extant arthropod classes and the evolution of myriapods. Nature 376, 165-167 (1995)

6. Aguinaldo, A. et al. Evidence for a clade of nematodes, arthropods and other moulting animals. Nature 387, 489-493 (1997)

7. Regier, J. C. & Shultz, J. W. Molecular phylogeny of the major arthropod groups indicates polyphyly of crustaceans and a new hypothesis for the origin of hexapods. Mol. Biol. Evol. 14, 902-913 (1997)

8. Averof, M. & Akam, M. Hox genes and the diversification of insect and crustacean body plans. Nature 376, 420-423 (1995)

9. Averof, M. & Patel, N. Crustacean appendage evolution associated with changes in Hox gene expression. Nature 388, 682-686 (1997) | Article

10. Panganiban, G., Sebring, A., Nagy, L. & Carroll, S. The development of crustacean limbs and the evolution of arthropods. Science 270, 1363-1366 (1995)

11. Abzhanov, A. & Kaufman, T. C. Crustacean (malacostracan) Hox genes and the evolution of the arthropod trunk. Development 127, 2239-2249 (2000)

12. Li, X. & McGinnis, W. Activity regulation of Hox proteins, a mechanism for altering functional specificity in development and evolution. Proc. Natl Acad. Sci. USA 96, 6802-6807 (1999)

13. Gonzalez-Reyes, A. & Morata, G. The developmental effect of overexpressing a Ubx product in Drosophila embryos is dependent on its interactions with other homeotic products. Cell 61, 515-522 (1990) | PubMed |

15 posted on 02/06/2002 10:26:51 AM PST by ThinkPlease
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: callisto
If evolution and darwinism were so obvious, self evident and provable, why do they have to fake the results and kill many to advance it? (As did Stalin)
16 posted on 02/06/2002 10:31:02 AM PST by lavaroise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ThinkPlease
There's a second article desribing similar effects in Drosophila.

Evolution of a transcriptional repression domain in an insect Hox protein
RON GALANT AND SEAN B. CARROLL
Homeotic (Hox) genes code for principal transcriptional regulators of animal body regionalization. The duplication and divergence of Hox genes, changes in their regulation, and changes in the regulation of Hox target genes have all been implicated in the evolution of animal diversity. It is not known whether Hox proteins have also acquired new activities during the evolution of specific lineages. Amino-acid sequences outside the DNA-binding homeodomains of Hox orthologues diverge significantly. These sequence differences may be neutral with respect to protein function, or they could be involved in the functional divergence of Hox proteins and the evolutionary diversification of animals. Here, we identify a transcriptional repression domain in the carboxy-terminal region of the Drosophila Ultrabithorax (Ubx) protein. This domain is highly conserved among Ubx orthologues in other insects, but is absent from Ubx in other arthropods and onychophorans. The evolution of this domain may have facilitated the greater morphological diversification of posterior thoracic and anterior abdominal segments characteristic of modern insects.

17 posted on 02/06/2002 10:55:54 AM PST by Nebullis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: lavaroise
...why do they have to fake the results and kill many to advance it?

Who'd they kill and what results were faked?

18 posted on 02/06/2002 11:02:09 AM PST by Junior
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Nebullis; ThinkPlease
The question of whether the Hox protein effect can block limb develoment at the beginning of embryonic development is significant. The guy in the article seems to be claiming that the Hox protein effect does not do this, and the other journal snippets don't seem to be contradicting him.

(In any case, I still think the evolutionists are grasping for straws ton support their theory that mutations explain everything.

For example, I notice their originally very excited claim that the valine-leucine switch at position eight in hemoglobin improves malaria survivability. Well, I would gladly take my chances with malaria rather than have sickle-cell anemia.)

19 posted on 02/06/2002 11:25:54 AM PST by the_doc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: lavaroise
If evolution and darwinism were so obvious, self evident and provable, why do they have to fake the results and kill many to advance it? (As did Stalin)

Who's "they," and who did "they" kill?

20 posted on 02/06/2002 11:29:36 AM PST by Poohbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-73 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson