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1 posted on 02/05/2002 9:04:00 PM PST by Sabertooth
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2 posted on 02/05/2002 9:04:47 PM PST by Sabertooth
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I've got my Rashi's commentary on the Pentateuch right here... but I really am having a hard time understanding your questions. What is it you want to know? I will quote to you verbatim what it says in Rashi's commentary.
4 posted on 02/05/2002 9:10:15 PM PST by monkeyshine
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How can the heavens be created on the same day there was a mist rising from the ground in Genesis 2, when these things occurred on different days in Genesis 1?

You are misreading the verse. In Genesis 2, it is spoken of as being a general time, as in 'the general period of time when', not as if it was the same day.

7 posted on 02/05/2002 9:15:34 PM PST by RaceBannon
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God transcends time, space, and matter. Since God can move back and forth in time, time becomes very hard to quantify. The best thing to do is accept Christ so you are assured of eternal salvation. Then when you enter eternal paradise, you will have the mind of God, and know and understand the answer to all your questions.
12 posted on 02/05/2002 9:22:28 PM PST by Russell Scott
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LOL...Bilateral organic brain trying to comprehend God!

Well it's good to keep trying anyways!

23 posted on 02/05/2002 9:33:34 PM PST by Rain-maker
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Why does the word "day" in Genesis 1 have to mean a literal 24-hour period?

Because some folks are extremely literal. Later on in the Bible it says something akin to the span of a man's life is but a blink of an eye to God.

24 posted on 02/05/2002 9:33:34 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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I believe God created it all, and because I accept His Son as my Savior, one day I'll have all these specific answers. Until then, there will be many aspects and details of God and what He has done that I will not understand.

MM

38 posted on 02/05/2002 9:48:54 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Sabertooth
I'd compare the Genisis 2:4 statement to this...

In my father's day a lot of things were different. How does the same word apply to Genesis 1? I can't tell you for sure and I'm not sure anyone can. Could the word actually have had duel meaning in it's day, which isn't recognized today? I don't know. Perhaps others do.

There are certain conflicts within the Bible. Those that want to use those conflicts to discredit it will. Those who wish to accept the Bible on faith will have their questions answered eventually, if their faith is justified.

I have accepted the literal meaning (in my estimation) of Genesis 1 and 2. I have done so because I was raised a believer of the Seventh-Day Sabbath. That Sabbath as been celebrated for something like four thousand years if I remember correctly. I have accepted the observance on faith because we are admonished to do so in Exodus 20:3-17. Others will tell you that this observance was abolished at the cross. I don't buy into that.

God blessed and sanctified the seventh day. And when I observe the Sabbath as I have explained it, it seems to be very rewarding. Can't explain it. I feel blessed for having done so.

Hey, this is my perception. I'm sure you'll hear many others.

40 posted on 02/05/2002 9:52:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Sabertooth
In direct answer to your question, a day is the 24 hours you spoke of (a period of sunlight and period of darkness) and God created all of it on the first day, as stated in Gen 2:1.

I will look into this more and report back. I remember studying this but cannot recall the explanation I was given so I will look it up further.

45 posted on 02/05/2002 10:01:01 PM PST by monkeyshine
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Some literalists insist on a 24 hour day, you follow that in your post.

So, looking only at that point (it could be key after all), what makes a day 24 hours long? A sun, a earth, the earth rotating on it's axis once in 24 hours.

At which point in Genesis are these requirements met?

51 posted on 02/05/2002 10:07:06 PM PST by D-fendr
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Great post and great graphics. The question is definetely an in-house debate. Another question is why was Adam so relieved when God finally created women, if it had only been a twenty-four hour day? Great questions for people who take the Bible seriously to muse over.
53 posted on 02/05/2002 10:13:46 PM PST by week 71
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I went to askmoses.com, and the Rabbi told me that the verse in Gen 2:4 refers to the potential, that in potential all (everything!) was created in the first day.

He also said that, as for the seed question, that all was created by His Word, and that the chicken indeed came before the egg as far as the plants go! :-)

65 posted on 02/05/2002 10:43:01 PM PST by monkeyshine
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I've read somewhere....(have to research it) that in Genesis 1....the word "created" in Hebrew was a word meaning RE-created. The author speculated that the original earth was destroyed when Lucifer was cast out of heaven....hence the waters would have been here ... but the earth was without form (land) and void (barren). Interesting concept. I'll see what I can dig up on it.
67 posted on 02/05/2002 11:02:07 PM PST by LaineyDee
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In God We Trust - and in the event of a tie, the house wins.
71 posted on 02/06/2002 12:22:24 AM PST by mindprism.com
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Your question on the God of random has been around a long time. It used to be "Who pushed the first eraser"

Betrand Russell answered with another question..." Who created God?"

The answer he got was "God always was and always will be"

He then came up with another question.... "What's wrong with "The universe always was and always will be?"

72 posted on 02/06/2002 1:29:46 AM PST by The Raven
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There are some who think the 6 days of creation were 6 'earth' days. I do not. The word 'day' in the bible is used figuratively more than once to equal some unspecified period of time. Scripture states that a day to the Lord is like a thousand years. Again, this is not literal, but relates to God being eternal. So who really knows how long a creation day was? 24 hours? 24 years? 24 million years? 24 seconds? Doesn't matter. The point is, God made it all. :)
80 posted on 02/06/2002 6:25:56 AM PST by MEGoody
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5 And God called the light Day , and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

A poetical creation story that science has born out to be true time and time again. For decades non-Christians have said, "How could God create light before he created the Sun?" and we now know through science that light existed before any stars were formed. The progression of creation has been discovered, first by the Word of God and then verified by science. Plants were the first life on earth followed by water life and then land animals. This is spelled out before science was invented, before the study of animals, before fossil research before any of it. God's Word is true. Then why the panic that insues if there seems to be a misunderstanding on our part of scripture? The verses quoted above I think are the most damaging to the "24 hour day" literalist interpretation. In verse 5, on the 2nd day, God creates light and darkness and calls them day and night. Then in verse 14, on the 4th day, he creates the stars (and later the Sun and Moon) in order to "divide the day from the night". But wasn't that already done in verse 5? Apparently not. If not, then how could there be morning and evening? Morning and evening are words that convey the transistion between light and dark. Without verse 14 in place, there is no division between day and night. This clearly is a oral tradition story, true as can be, that Moses put down in written form. The Word of God, which is Truth, inhabits perfectly the whole creation story told in Genesis 1. We also have the God given ability to understand that literary and poetic narrative, while containing truth, do not have to contain actuality. That's like saying that the parable of Lazerus and the rich man must have actually happened, or Jesus was telling a lie. Telling a story that incorporates truth in a way that people can understand it is not telling a lie. This is how I view Genesis chapter 1.

89 posted on 02/06/2002 7:51:18 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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A bump in thanks for two great artists....Blake and Michelangelo!!!
94 posted on 02/06/2002 8:25:39 AM PST by beowolf
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I'm not a creationist....I'm an ID (intelligent designer). ID doesn't use the book of genesis or the christian bible at all.
99 posted on 02/06/2002 9:12:35 AM PST by xzins
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Bump for later
100 posted on 02/06/2002 9:41:10 AM PST by CyberCowboy777
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