One God for all

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[mfreddy]

Today my local newspaper had a nasty response to a LCMS pastor's claim that Christians and Muslims do not believe in the same god. The author goes on to say "This is contrary to all the sources I've seen, which explain that Jews, Christians and Muslims do indeed worship the same god, in what is termed the Abrahamic tradition. Perhaps he is confused my the term "Allah" (Arabic for "the lord"), not understanding that it is a different name for God, not the name of a different god." The letter closes with a personal attack on the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod.

Can anyone help me understand what the philosophical differences between the three religions and provide me with information to refute the letter if untrue?

Given the nasty nature of the letter and the attack on the Church I feel strongly compelled to at least investigate whether a response is warranted.

[ValerieUSA]

Allah is NOT God.

[ValerieUSA]

I don't know how you explain it to an idiot.

[DonQ]

It's more than a matter of linguistics. The Moslems believe that their God commands them to conquer the world and suppress all other religions by force. No matter what name they give their deity, it's certainly not the same God worshipped by Moses and Jesus.

[isthisnickcool]

ASK THE IMAM?

[VRWC_minion]

Start by understanding the Christian understanding of the Trinity. God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

Muslims and Jews reject God the Son. Therefore the God's are not technically the same.

[Thinkin' Gal]

The God of Abraham is the Creator. Allah's followers are destroyers. Kind of like...

Revelation 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Abaddon = "destruction"
Apollyon = "Destroyer"

[Cacophonous]

The God of Islam is not the God of Christianity. The most obvious distinction is that Christians (I attend a Wisconsin Synod Lutheran church) recognize the three persons of the Godhead - the Holy Trinity - as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

Islam, I believe, considers Jesus Christ to have been only a prophet, and Jews, of course, do not recognize Him as the Messiah. In Christianity, Christ is God.

Ergo. the god slam cannot possibly be the same as the Christian God because they (Muslims) do not recognize Christ as God.

[Cacophonous]

Oops...last line should have read:

Ergo. the god of Islam cannot possibly be the same as the Christian God because they (Muslims) do not recognize Christ as God.

Sorry ;bout the lousy typing..

[Mrs. P]

From what I've read and learned in Bible class (at my Lutheran church, Wisconsin Ev. Lutheran Synod) is that Islam was founded by a guy who could not read or write and had 'visions'. He was told in his visions that he was the prophet of god, and he called his god Allah. At that time, Allah was the name of a moon god in the area where he lived.

Muslims deny the Trinity, and say that Jesus was just a really good guy who got killed for claiming things he wasn't.

Actually, since they teach against Christian beliefs (deny Christ) they are a form of antichrist.

In the copy of the Koran my pastor has, right in the first page is a statement refering to killing all Christians and Jews. Cool, huh?

You know, most of what I just typed would be appropriate on that other thread that has "How to Tinkle Off Liberals" or something like that. Especially that my church is the Wisconsin EVANGELICAL Lutheran Synod! LOL!

[ladyinred]

the god slam

Not so sure that is such a bad name for him! :)

I agree with most here, we do not have the same God.

[babygene]

As a Christian, I would not worship a God that told muslems to kill Christians and Jews...

As for the muslems, they can say anything they want about their "devil god". It doesn't make it true.

[athiestwithagun]

Ergo. the god of Islam cannot possibly be the same as the Christian God because they (Muslims) do not recognize Christ as God.

This also means that the God of the Jews is not the same as the Christian God.

[Cacophonous]

This also means that the God of the Jews is not the same as the Christian God.

That's exactly right.

[Sueann]

Christians and Jews do serve the same GOD - however, Jews do not accept Jesus, as the Son of God. Muslims do not believe in the same God Christians and Jews do.

You can learn more by studying the story of Abraham and Sarah. When Sarah allowed her handmaiden to sleep with her husband (Abraham), the handmaiden had a child (Ismael). God told the handmaiden he would make a great nation of her child (the Arabs), if the child would worship HIM. They went off and worshipped other gods. No wonder they live in the middle ages.

Because of Jewish tradition, the eldest child inherits everything. Well, Ismael believed he was the eldest, but GOD choose Isaac as the eldest, because he was born of Sarah, Abraham's wife.

This fight over the inheritance is what the Middle East mess is all about. The arabs claim the land is theirs, and the Jews claim it is theirs. I side with the Jews, because the Bible clearly says the inheritance is Isaac's.

[marbren]

Allah is really Satan

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Allah used to play center for the Los Angeles Lakers.