1 posted on
12/26/2001 4:35:52 PM PST by
Starmaker
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To: Starmaker
If we all renounce wealth, then what will the socialists have left to steal???? Be carefull what you wish for Billy boy!
3 posted on
12/26/2001 5:03:24 PM PST by
keithtoo
To: Starmaker
He was with the Savior Party I believe! LOL
4 posted on
12/26/2001 5:05:06 PM PST by
A CA Guy
To: Starmaker
When you start to study ancient history and then you open your ears and start hearing what Jesus had to say, you'll find out from ancient history three groups of people occupying Jerusalem at that time. One of the groups was called the Essenes. The second one was called the Seducees, and the third one was called the Pharisees. Jesus said about the Pharisees, they are the ones who are sitting in Moses' chair. Then he couldn't have been one of them, could he?
Seducees' beliefs were very similar to those of liberals. There is nothing after death, and you have to get whatever you can in this life. Jesus couldn't have been one of them either, logically looking.
Then we're left with the last group of people, the so-called Essenes who travelled from village to village, helped the poor, fed the hungry, and provided medical care for poor people. I guess, when you go through history and take a good look, Jesus appears to be an Essene. That means, definitely not a liberal or a conservative.
5 posted on
12/26/2001 5:07:41 PM PST by
Tasha
To: Starmaker
So I wonder how much of Maher's income goes to mid-east countries? D*mn hypocrite!
6 posted on
12/26/2001 5:10:41 PM PST by
Brett66
To: Starmaker
I don't think it's clear cut to portray Jesus as either a liberal or a conservative. Some of the things he commanded, particularly of his followers, were highly socialistic (giving all your money to the poor or to the church, to store up your treasures in Heaven rather than on Earth, to choose between God and riches, etc.) The Catholics, in particular, lean towards this type of lifestyle.
OTOH, Jesus comes across to me as a moral conservative but not a legalist (which is what the Jews of His day expected Him to be). I would expect Him to abhor abortion and the rampant sexuality found in America and most western countries but I would also expect Him to condemn those who judge harshly without looking toward their own sins and flaws.
It would be corny as well as wrong to portray Jesus as a "compassionate conservative" although His message is actually one of compassion and scarifice mixed with conservative social values.
To: Starmaker
I know a girl that gets food stamps and a check every month from the government because she decided to have two children out of wedlock. She eats steak and shrimp a couple times a week and she is saving up for a trip to Disney World. The Bible said that if you don't work, you don't eat. Amen.
To: Starmaker
Yeah, we monopolize the world's wealth, yet for years and years the richest people in the world were the sheiks and sultans and all their oil money.
To: Starmaker
Was Jesus A Liberal? No. Neither is He a moral-liberal.
To: Starmaker
Is the amateur "TooGoodReports.com" the only website you can post from??? Please provide a little variety so that no one comes to think you are merely here to be a shill for your own domain name. Sheesh.
To: Starmaker
Define liberal.
14 posted on
12/26/2001 5:47:59 PM PST by
Valin
To: Starmaker
First, Bill Maher is a pitiful buffoon. I couldn't care less what he says.
Second, I cannot believe that Jesus would support the cowardly use of big government to confiscate his neighbors' money so that scumbag politicians could use it to buy the votes of society's parasites by giving them "free stuff".
To: Starmaker
Jesus said we should love our neighbor. He didn't say we should support him."Sell all your belongings, give the proceeds to the poor, and follow me" might be construed as a call to support your neighbor not to mention an anti-capitalist, pro commie message.
To: Starmaker
Rome already had -- or would soon have -- state distribution of grain to its poor -- a rudimentary welfare state. It would be ironic in the extreme if Christ and Christianity were just a way of providing what had already been in existence or in sight when He came.
Albert Schweitzer claimed that early Christianity was grounded in the expectation of Christ's immanent return. That is something to wrestle with. How one chooses to understand "immanent" and "return" is another question.
20 posted on
12/26/2001 6:05:00 PM PST by
x
To: Starmaker
No. Jesus was a radical.
To: Starmaker
Jesus was a neither. Remember, not one book of the Bible was written by Jesus Christ himself. The Bible is a book of stories, written by men who are interpreting what Jesus said. These men may have bent or twisted his words to suit their purposes.
To: Starmaker
No, Jesus was not a liberal. He was not a Socialist or Communist, either. Jesus offered divinity to the INDIVIDUAL human soul. Liberals, Socialists, and Communists see the individual and his soul as expendable currency with which they can purchase earthly power, expand their agenda, and to hell with anything spiritual. They are evil, Jesus was not.
Jesus as a liberal comes from same spin factory that told me for years that Robin Hood robbed from the rich and gave to the poor, like a Communist. In reality, he robbed from the Government and gave back to the people.
To: Starmaker
I was at a local horse stable the other day.
I do believe that what I scraped off my shoe was more relevant than anything Mahar ever had to say.
To: Starmaker
Amen to that. Jesus often spoke of being poor to the world and rich in heavenly blessings. He did not teach that we should give money to the neighboring village because they are lazy or poor.
33 posted on
12/27/2001 3:40:22 AM PST by
wwjdn
To: Starmaker
No Jesus was too smart to be a Liberal.
37 posted on
12/27/2001 4:19:27 AM PST by
Texbob
To: Starmaker
"Bill Maher may be a sincere idealist,..."Henry, you're being far too charitable.
No, Bill Maher is a drooling idiot who somehow feels that people should listen to 'im. Thinking people don't.
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