The Bill of Rights rally today in Denver went very well. Nice and peaceful. No permit, and no hassle for the rally at all - Only the men who were carrying openly were arrested. No one else was bothered in the least bit.
We thank everyone for their support. FreeRepublic will be kept updated on the facts in this case. Please visit the Stanley web site at: http://www.stanley2002.org .
The campaign will be releasing a summary later this evening or early tomorrow morning. Detailing the entire rally and updated information on Rick and Duncan. Please support these brave patriots. Rick is not taking donations for any legal expenses - he has taken that responsibility for himself. All donations should be directed to the campaign. ($1,000 limit until May - must be a U.S. Citizen) Please see the web site for more details.
THANK YOU!
SweetLiberty2
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To: LibertyRocks
Is there any chance that a right to carry law could pass in Colorado?
To: bang_list
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To: LibertyRocks
Rick performed an act of civil disobedience by openly carrying a loaded weapon, in a holster, in violation of Denver Revised Municipal Code section 38-117.5(b). Stanley believes that this city ordinance is unconstitutional. It infringes citizens' rights protected by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It is also in direct violation of Article II, Section 13 of the Colorado constitution. He will win....
4 posted on
12/15/2001 6:32:16 PM PST by
Bad~Rodeo
To: redrock; Jeff Head
Bump.
To: LibertyRocks
"He fully intends to demonstrate that this ordinance is unconstitutional, and that it cannot legally be enforced."
I agree, but I'll lay you 10 to one odds that he's convicted. Whether the law is unconstitutional or not, it's the current law, and the jury must either enforce it or nullify it with an acquittal. The odds favor enforcement. I can appreciate what these guys are doing, but what sense is there in going to jail? They should be working for a CCW law in Colorado, such as we have here in Michigan. Maybe this is the opening salvo in such an attempt.
(BTW, Dan from Michigan, if you're reading this, please drop me a private reply as to an answer for this question: does Michigan's CCW permit a CCW holder to possess a handgun in Wayne County or the City of Detroit, where there are special local laws against it. I would bet that state law trumps local, but I've been wondering and I know you're up on this issue. Thanks!)
19 posted on
12/15/2001 6:51:39 PM PST by
yooper
To: LibertyRocks
Rick is a Constitutional ignoramus.
"The Second Amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow-citizens..." -- US Supreme Court, Presser v. State of Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)
22 posted on
12/15/2001 6:55:40 PM PST by
Roscoe
To: LibertyRocks
Thank you for posting this article.
Best Regards!
Buckeroo
gibraltar@discover.net
32 posted on
12/15/2001 7:08:24 PM PST by
Buckeroo
To: LibertyRocks
It would seem the law is also in violation of the Colorado State Constitution, which like Texas', allows for regulation of concealed carry, but not open.
"The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons." Article II, Section 13.
Colorado does have a concealed carry permit system, with permist issued by "chief of police of a city or city and county, or the sheriff of a county". The quote is from NRA-ILA, as is the Constitutional quote above. I'ts not clear from the NRA-ILA information if the carry permits are "Shall issue" or "may issue", although the law directs (shall) the local LEO to conduct a background info. Colorado Freepers should have more information.
34 posted on
12/15/2001 7:14:04 PM PST by
El Gato
To: LibertyRocks
I don't think stunts like this promote the right to bear arms. They make people who understand how to apply the right along with common sense become thrown into the same pool.
I own a business, and in my state you can obtain a permit to carry. It allows you to carry it, concealed or not, in public with some exceptions like banks, schools, etc. In my business, however, I have the right to ask you not to bring a loaded weapon in. And I've exercised that right with a guy who strolled in with a Glock strapped proudly on his side. I asked him very politely to leave the gun in the car. He told me he had a permit and didn't have to. I first explained to him that I support the right to bear arms as much as anyone. I then explained that I also have the right to say whether or not you can carry one on my property and that my decision was that he could not. He got angry and left, but later came back, with an empty holster. I thanked him for respecting my rules and all is well.
MM
To: LibertyRocks
I am not a Libertarian, but more power to this guy. Go Rick!
To: LibertyRocks
Punish the criminals for using firearms illegally, not punish the law-abiding citizens for not committing a crime. Our Constitution protects the rights of "We the people", not removes them.
Can you imagine the outcry if you had to have a permit to speak, or to write, or even to type something on the internet?
47 posted on
12/15/2001 7:31:46 PM PST by
4CJ
To: LibertyRocks
Excellent. I say repeal all CCW laws in every state and replace them with nothing. No permits. No permission from a magistrate. I do not want the government to know who is and isn't carrying weapons. I don't need to register myself with some politicians in order to defend my life.
71 posted on
12/15/2001 8:06:21 PM PST by
Demidog
To: LibertyRocks
"....civil disobedience..."The KEY to returning our Nation to Constitutional Law.
redrock--Constitutional Terrorist
84 posted on
12/15/2001 8:23:53 PM PST by
redrock
To: LibertyRocks
102 posted on
12/15/2001 8:37:31 PM PST by
Lurker
To: LibertyRocks
Now, now now, everyone knows that the 2nd amendment is only referring to the military National Guard, not to the people.
That is the popular notion believed by so many as a fact, and repeated over and over by the socialists, opps, I mean Democrats.
Don't you know that the constitution is a "living, breathing document" subject to the interpretation of those who know what is best for us?
/sarcasm, of course)
To: LibertyRocks
God bless him for having the courage to take that stand. I hope the Libertarians don't mind my praying that He protects them in a case that will be tried before judges and juries that do not know (or care) what the Constitution says.
To: LibertyRocks
BTTT
187 posted on
12/15/2001 9:42:03 PM PST by
hattend
To: LibertyRocks
EXCELLANT.Thanks for the update
To: LibertyRocks
Yep if you want Tommy Dashcle to keep on being Senate majority leader, vote for Stanley.
It is so funny in that your idealogical fervor, that the machinations of the Senate are lost on you,
237 posted on
12/16/2001 4:56:20 AM PST by
Dane
To: LibertyRocks
", Rick Stanley,
Libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate,"
This alone is perfect justification for arrest! lol
244 posted on
12/16/2001 5:57:20 AM PST by
verity
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