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"My litte son," how wonderful that would be to hear Our Lady say to me, to us. The first time I read her words to Juan Diego I was brought back to the Church. I will try to provide some links. I'm not very sophisticated for pictures.

De Maria Numquam Satis!

1 posted on 12/12/2001 7:21:41 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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heres a website:

http://www.sancta.org/

2 posted on 12/12/2001 7:26:18 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Oh, good grief. And to think we all laughed at Linus when he thought he saw The Great Pumpkin rising out of the pumpkin patch.

Nothing like perpetuating superstition....

5 posted on 12/12/2001 7:40:44 AM PST by Own Drummer
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Bump, Captain.

I invite you all to have a gander at my wifes Rosary at

www.RosaryMaker.com

for a simplified explaination and view of a beautiful work of art.
6 posted on 12/12/2001 7:41:24 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: Cap'n Crunch
This couldn't have been a Spanish invention, could it? So to facilitate less troublesome conversions?
9 posted on 12/12/2001 7:58:40 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Juan Diego finally got in to see the Bishop with his bundle.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

10 posted on 12/12/2001 8:00:05 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Cap'n Crunch
There was a pause. Our Lady looked at Juan Diego and uttered the words that have rung down through nearly 5 centuries. "Listen and let it penetrate your heart, my dear little son, do not be troubled or weighed down with grief. Do not fear any illness or vexation, anxiety or pain. Am I not here who am your Mother? Are you not under my shadow and protection? Am I not your fountain of life? Are you not in the folds of my mantle? In the crossing of my arms? Is there anything else you need?"

Why is there absolutely no mention of Jesus in your story?

18 posted on 12/12/2001 8:09:05 AM PST by agrace
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To: *Catholic_list; patent
FYI BUMP
20 posted on 12/12/2001 8:09:58 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Ave Maria!
21 posted on 12/12/2001 8:12:35 AM PST by el_chupacabra
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To: Cap'n Crunch; newgeezer; SoothingDave
Mother of the True God

Very interesting when compared to John 17 where Jesus says "That they might know You, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent".

MOG has always had a mother of the Father sound to it to me and this proves it.

27 posted on 12/12/2001 8:21:24 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Cap'n Crunch
These are not apparitions by The Lady of Guadalupe, these are Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Bonafide encounters with real aliens....kinda like E.T. the Extra Testicle. These folks look for apparitions and appearances on everything from tree trunks, to reflections in stained glass and even cinnamon rolls. I read abount an appearance of the Guadalupe lady and she was reportedly wearing a Tin Foil hat and gown.
29 posted on 12/12/2001 8:24:55 AM PST by Delbert
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I am not familiar with the catholic church. am i correct in saying that it is a monotheistic religion with a god named Mary? this is what i gather from this article. just wondering, i'm always curious about the gods that other religious groups worship. thanks.
32 posted on 12/12/2001 8:28:09 AM PST by pro-life
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Mother child worship goes all the way back to Babylonian culture, it was an attempt by early (misguided)christian missionaries to appease and entice practitioners of pagan religions by including some aspects of mother child worship in the early christian propaganda. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER AND THAT IS THROUGH THE SON.
35 posted on 12/12/2001 8:32:45 AM PST by Delbert
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Sorry, Cap'n, but this is the only photo of the image I could find -- all the others are paintings of it. I tried to make it larger, but it doesn't enlarge well. If you click here, you'll see a much larger version of it.



57 posted on 12/12/2001 9:00:07 AM PST by eastsider
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Thank the Lord that at that time, 1531, Luther had set much of the Church to right in Germany and Calvin was called to Geneva.

Praise God He's saved us from such blasphemous worship of Mary.

69 posted on 12/12/2001 9:11:36 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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Tradition, Family and Property/America Needs Fatima

On the home page click on "America Needs Fatima"

Then click on "Anti-Blasphemy Center" then "To take a closer look at some past Anti-Blasphemy Protests"

You will see a horrific look at what a Museum in New Mexico did to desecrate Our Lady of Guadalupe. Sing up and get the flyers which contain 2 pre-printed post cards to mail in protest to the museum.

Our Lady of Guadalupe Insulted

This Isn't Just Any Blasphemy!

Just when blasphemy is withdrawn from one place, it rears its ugly head in another. This time in New Mexico.

The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property (TFP) and its America Needs Fatima affiliate campaign had just finished a successful rally of reparation and protest at the Brooklyn Museum of Art. The controversy centered around two portrayals of Jesus Christ that were finally taken off display. Press reports described them as a photo of a nude woman standing in Jesus' place at the Last Supper and another of a topless woman on a cross.

Now, the American TFP and America Needs Fatima's anti-blasphemy network is opposing another offense.

There is no such thing as an ordinary blasphemy since all blasphemy is by definition an extremely serious offense against God. However, Alma Lopez's "Our Lady" exhibit at the Museum of International Folk Art in Santa Fe, New Mexico goes to new extremes. Press reports describe the exhibit as a computer collage portraying a bikini-clad Virgin of Guadalupe, held aloft by a topless woman-angel.

A Special Devotion to Our Lady

Our Lady of Guadalupe is full of significance. The word Guadalupe was actually a Spanish mistranslation of the local Aztec dialect word, Coatlaxopeuh, which means "one who crushes the serpents." Within six years of this apparition, six million Aztecs had converted to Catholicism. The cloth where Our Lady's image appears, shows her as the God-bearer - she is pregnant with her Divine Son.

What makes this exhibit especially offensive is the fact that the Virgin of Guadalupe is officially the Patroness of all the Americas. She is the powerful intercessor cherished and loved by the Mexican people. Since she is shown as a mother with child, she is also considered protector of the unborn.

"This isn't just any blasphemy," claims Mr. Robert Ritchie, campaign coordinator. "It targets Our Lady in an invocation that is so dear to Catholics, Americans, and those who fight abortion. The 'artist' could not have picked a more cherished image of Our Lady to deform."

Need to Oppose Blasphemy

For these very reasons, the TFP's anti-blasphemy network is mounting a peaceful and legal campaign to oppose this latest exhibit called Cyber Arte: Where Tradition Meets Technology, where the offensive portrayal appears. As always, all violence is strictly forbidden in this protest.

Protesting is the only way to prevent more blasphemy. Just because this exhibit follows closely behind the Brooklyn exhibit is no reason to remain silent. In fact, public pressure recently forced officials at Kennedy airport to cover an unclothed Christ painted on a mural there. Email protests to Yahoo! led that company to abandon plans to market pornography directly on its search engine site.

Grassroots action can be extremely effective and Catholics - especially those devoted to the Blessed Mother - must come to her defense when so vilely attacked. Many local faithful have already staged protests at the museum in Santa Fe and voiced their objections. Now is the time to join with them.

To remain silent and indifferent only encourages the promoters of blasphemy to shamefully peddle their agenda. The American TFP campaign is well underway and includes Enough is Enough! protest postcard fliers, email protests, and a future rally of public reparation. Campaign participants are also encouraged to download a true picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe and spread this image to family and friends.

Be a part of this historic campaign today! Here is what you can do!

1. Pray for the success of this campaign. 2. To download a true picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe,Click Here

3. To order your FREE Enough is Enough! protest fliers, Click Here

4. Resend this special email message to your family and friends. 5. Send a special INSTANT email message to the Museum of International Folk Art by By Clicking Here

6. Write, fax or call the museum at: The Museum of International Folk Art, P.O. Box 2087, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87504-2087. Phone: (505) 476-1200, Fax:(505) 476-1300. Museum of International Folk Art

72 posted on 12/12/2001 9:14:25 AM PST by Coleus
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Last year the Virgin Mary appeared in a window in New Jersey and hundreds flocked there. Then they cleaned the window.
79 posted on 12/12/2001 9:25:05 AM PST by sakic
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Thank you for the lovely article about Mary, Our Mother.

I have read many of the posts, and was disappointed that so many were felt the need to ridicule, denounce, and hurt fellow Christians with sometimes mean and spiteful words. I understand that most Protestant Christians do not understand the role of Mary and the saints in the Catholic Church and that they have been misguided into believing that we worship Mary, pray TO saints, etc.,etc.

I hope that everyone will pray for civilty and peace on Free Republic and realize that we are all children of God, that all Christians believe in Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity, and that we are united in more than we are divided.

Protestant Reformers, that many of non-Catholic Christians look to for justification, also believed in the Divine Motherhood of Mary:

German reformer Martin Luther's (1483-1546) writings often address the subject of Mary: On the Divine Motherhood of Mary, he wrote In this work whereby she was made the Mother of God, so many and such great good things were given her that no one can grasp them. ... Not only was Mary the mother of him who is born [in Bethlehem], but of him who, before the world, was eternally born of the Father, from a Mother in time and at the same time man and God. (Weimer's The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, v. 7, p. 572.)

Luther, true to Catholic tradition, wrote on the Virginity of Mary: It is an article of faith that Mary is Mother of the Lord and still a virgin. ... Christ, we believe, came forth from a womb left perfectly intact. (Weimer's The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, v.11, pp. 319-320; v. 6. p. 510.)

I hope and pray that there will be more kind words and less hostility when Christians -- Catholic and Protestant -- discuss Our Lord and our faith.

God bless.

93 posted on 12/12/2001 9:37:32 AM PST by Gophack
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For your information, several years ago an article appeared in The St. Louis Review, Catholic newspaper, in which this story about Guadalupe was admitted to have been made up for political-religious reasons. I was stunned to see it but pleasantly surprised that they came clean on the issue.
111 posted on 12/12/2001 10:12:00 AM PST by Woodkirk
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Bumping on the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe.
120 posted on 12/12/2001 10:36:54 AM PST by Salvation
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I'm still looking for the punchline. where is it?
122 posted on 12/12/2001 10:38:39 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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