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Celebrating 470 years of an ongoing miracle, the apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531
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| 12 12 2001
| Cap'n Crunch
Posted on 12/12/2001 7:21:41 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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"My litte son," how wonderful that would be to hear Our Lady say to me, to us. The first time I read her words to Juan Diego I was brought back to the Church. I will try to provide some links. I'm not very sophisticated for pictures.
De Maria Numquam Satis!
To: Cap'n Crunch
heres a website:
http://www.sancta.org/
To: Cap'n Crunch
"My Holy One, my Lady, I will do what you ask of me."
There is only one "Holy One", and that is Jesus Christ the Lord! The Catholic Church's worship of Mary is shameful. Mary was esteemed as a faitful servant in Scriptures - nothing more, nothing less. To attribute supernatural powers to Mary is just plain wrong, no matter how many apparitions of her are seen. Mary doesn't even know we exist. She is enjoying the presence of God in heaven along with the rest of believers who have passed from this earth.
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posted on
12/12/2001 7:35:58 AM PST
by
AsYouAre
To: AsYouAre
Italics off
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posted on
12/12/2001 7:37:20 AM PST
by
AsYouAre
To: Cap'n Crunch
Oh, good grief. And to think we all laughed at Linus when he thought he saw The Great Pumpkin rising out of the pumpkin patch.
Nothing like perpetuating superstition....
To: Cap'n Crunch
Bump, Captain.
I invite you all to have a gander at my wifes Rosary at
for a simplified explaination and view of a beautiful work of art.
To: Own Drummer
Nothing like perpetuating superstition....Or Anti-Catholic bigotry.
To: AsYouAre
Have you ever read anything about the appearance? Have you ever seen a book about the image of Our Lady? I think you do not fully understand, because if you did I believe you would love her also.
To: Cap'n Crunch
This couldn't have been a Spanish invention, could it? So to facilitate less troublesome conversions?
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posted on
12/12/2001 7:58:40 AM PST
by
onedoug
To: Cap'n Crunch
Juan Diego finally got in to see the Bishop with his bundle. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
To: TonyInOhio
Or Anti-Catholic bigotry. Ooh, the dreaded "B" word! One man's bigotry is another man's religious freedom. Can't we all just get along?
To: SoothingDave
Marian bump.
To: Own Drummer
Don't criticize what you won't understand. We have not earned the right to fight one another in public while mutually attacked by our common secularist and satanic enemies. There is little likelihood that this thread will change your mind and none that your post will change ours.
Whenever we find ourselves falling into strife against one another we give aid and comfort to the servants of our mutual and most ancient enemy.
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posted on
12/12/2001 8:03:11 AM PST
by
BlackElk
To: newgeezer
Ooh, the dreaded "B" word! One man's bigotry is another man's religious freedom. Can't we all just get along? Well, it didn't work for Rodney King. :-)
I like the principle, tho. The thing is, no one knows you're a bigot until you open your mouth (or post it on a thread).
To: Own Drummer
Superstition? Have you ever seen the tilma or read about it? It's still on display, nearly 500 years old. A tilma of these type of fibers rots away naturally after about 40 years.
Like I said, scientists & opthamologists have studied it and can't explain it. It's much like the Shroud.
In 1921 a powerful bomb was placed by socialist revolutionaries right below it in an attempt to destroy it. The explosion damaged the Church but did not even crack the glass on the frame.
This tilma/image has undergone extensive research and it still cannot be explained.
It's the old adage, 'for those who believe no explanation is necessary, for those who don't no explanation will do.'
To: BlackElk
We have not earned the right to fight one another in public while mutually attacked by our common secularist and satanic enemies.So, you're saying Own Drummer is a Roman Catholic?
To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
I've seen the rosaries, they are magnificent, I'd like to get a few of them. Especially the Guadalupe rosary!
To: Cap'n Crunch
There was a pause. Our Lady looked at Juan Diego and uttered the words that have rung down through nearly 5 centuries. "Listen and let it penetrate your heart, my dear little son, do not be troubled or weighed down with grief. Do not fear any illness or vexation, anxiety or pain. Am I not here who am your Mother? Are you not under my shadow and protection? Am I not your fountain of life? Are you not in the folds of my mantle? In the crossing of my arms? Is there anything else you need?"Why is there absolutely no mention of Jesus in your story?
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posted on
12/12/2001 8:09:05 AM PST
by
agrace
To: TonyInOhio
The thing is, no one knows you're a bigot until you open your mouth (or post it on a thread).The thing is, some people are too quick to slap the "bigot" label on anyone with a differing opinion.
To: *Catholic_list; patent
FYI BUMP
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posted on
12/12/2001 8:09:58 AM PST
by
B Knotts
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