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Crossing the Threshold of Hope
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IF GOD EXISTS, WHY IS HE HIDING?

God, then-the biblical God-exists. But isn't the objection of many people, yesterday as today, quite understandable? Why doesn't He reveal Himself more clearly? Why doesn't He give everyone more tangible and accessible proof of His existence? Why does His mysterious strategy seem to be that of playing hide-and-seek with His creatures?

Reasons certainly do exist to believe in Him; but-as many have maintained and still maintain-there are also reasons to doubt, or even deny, His existence. Wouldn't it be simpler if His existence were evident?

The questions you ask-and which many ask-do not refer to Saint Thomas or to Augustine, or to the great Judeo-Christian tradition. It seems to me that they stem from another source, one that is purely rationalist, one that is characteristic of modern philosophy-the history of which begins with Descartes, who split thought from existence and identified existence with reason itself: "Cogito, ergo sum" ("I think, therefore I am").
How different from the approach of Saint Thomas, for whom it is not thought which determines existence, but existence, "esse," which determines thought! I think the way I think because I am that which I am-a creature-and because He is He who is, the absolute uncreated Mystery. If He were not Mystery, there would be no need for Revelation, or, more precisely, there would be no need for God to reveal Himself.

Your questions would only be legitimate if man, with his created intellect and within the limits of his own subjectivity, could overcome the entire distance that separates creation from the Creator, the contingent and not necessary being from the Necessary Being ("she who is not," according to the well-known words Christ addressed to Saint Catherine of Siena, from "He who is": cf. Raimondo da Capua, Legenda Maior 1, 10, 92).

The thoughts that concern you, and which also appear in your books, are expressed by a series of questions. They are not only yours. You wish to be a spokesman for the people of our time, placing yourself at their side on the paths-which are often difficult and intricate, often seeming to lead nowhere-in their search for God. Your anxiety is expressed in your questions: Why isn't there more concrete proof of God's existence? Why does He seem to hide Himself, almost playing with His creation? Shouldn't it all be much simpler? Shouldn't His existence be obvious? These are questions that belong to the repertory of contemporary agnosticism. Agnosticism is not atheism; more specifically it is not a systematic atheism, as was Marxist atheism and, in a different context, the atheism of the Enlightenment.

Nevertheless, your questions contain statements that re-echo the Old and New Testaments. When you speak of God as hiding, you use almost the same language as Moses, who wanted to see God face to face but could only see his "back" (cf. Ex 33:23). Isn't knowledge through creation suggested here?

When you speak of "playing," I think of words from the Book of Proverbs, which show Wisdom "playing [among the sons of man] on the surface of his earth" (cf. Prv 8:31). Doesn't this mean that the Wisdom of God bestows itself upon all creatures, while at the same time not revealing to them all His Mystery?

God's self-revelation comes about in a special way

by his "becoming man." Once again, according to the words of Ludwig Feuerbach, the great temptation is to make the classical reduction of that which is divine to that which is human. It was from Feuerbach's words that Marxist atheism was inspired, but-ut minus sapiens, "I am talking like a madman" (cf. 2 Cor 11:23)-the challenge comes from God Himself, since He really became man in His Son and was born of the Virgin. It is precisely in this birth, and then through the Passion, the Cross, and the Resurrection that the self-revelation of God in the history of man reached its zenith-the revelation of the invisible God in the visible humanity of Christ.

Even the day before the Passion the apostles asked Christ: "Show us the Father" (Jn 14:8). His response remains fundamental: "How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me?...Or else, believe because of the works themselves....The Father and I are one" (cf. Jn 14:9-11; 10:30).

Christ's words are far-reaching. We are almost at the point of that direct experience to which contemporary man aspires. But this immediacy is not the knowledge of God "face to face" (1 Cor 13:12), the knowledge of God as God.

Let's try to be impartial in our reasoning: Could God go further in His stooping down, in His drawing near to man, thereby expanding the possibilities of our knowing Him? In truth, it seems that He has gone as far as possible. He could not go further. In a certain sense God has gone too far! Didn't Christ perhaps become "a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles" (1 Cor 1:23)? Precisely because He called God His Father, because He revealed Him so openly in Himself, He could not but elicit the impression that it was too much....Man was no longer able to tolerate such closeness, and thus the protests began.

This great protest has precise names-first it is called the Synagogue, and then Islam. Neither can accept a God who is so human. "It is not suitable to speak of God in this way," they protest. "He must remain absolutely transcendent; He must remain pure Majesty. Majesty full of mercy, certainly, but not to the point of paying for the faults of His own creatures, for their sins."

From one point of view it is right to say that God revealed too much of Himself to man, too much of that which is most divine, that which is His intimate life; He revealed Himself in His Mystery. He was not mindful of the fact that such an unveiling would in a certain way obscure Him in the eyes of man, because man is not capable of withstanding an excess of the Mystery. He does not want to be pervaded and overwhelmed by it. Yes, man knows that God is the One in whom "we live and move and have our being" (Acts 17:28); but why must that be confirmed by His Death and Resurrection? Yet Saint Paul writes: "If Christ has not been raised, then empty is our preaching; empty, too, your faith" (1 Cor 15:14).

1 posted on 12/08/2001 3:17:19 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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2 posted on 12/08/2001 3:22:27 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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Because when God did reveal Himself and perform miracles in the Bible, it didn't have positive results. Proof there is a God resulted in unbelievers becoming more wicked, bitter and resentful.
4 posted on 12/08/2001 3:26:06 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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God never hides from us. It is us,with the shame of our sin, who hide from Him.
7 posted on 12/08/2001 3:31:42 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
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Have you heard the new rendition of "Silent Night" with God's words in it? Brings tears to eyes.

God is not hiding. God is ever present, whether in a friend, a field, or a distant longing of the heart.

8 posted on 12/08/2001 3:33:10 PM PST by Salvation
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A related thread.

Theodicy is the fancy theological/philosophical term for the attempt to justify the ways, acts, justice and goodness of God in the face of suffering, death and evil to an incredulous jury of humans.

10 posted on 12/08/2001 3:34:40 PM PST by KDD
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. . . then empty is our preaching; empty, too, your faith.

Right! If proof existed, your "faith" would be of no value to God. You have to have faith in Him in the absence of proof. (At least this is the best answer I've ever heard!)

13 posted on 12/08/2001 3:35:45 PM PST by LibWhacker
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GOD's Answer? Just might be something like this. I only want it evident to those who are willing to open their hearts and mind's to me. Those I will create in them peace within themself's to where they have no doubt. Doubting Thomases need not reply. That reply to the apostle Thomas is key. Blesed is he who have not seen and believe. From The thoughts of Larry O a believer
14 posted on 12/08/2001 3:37:54 PM PST by meducksguy
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Here is a book that tries to answer many of these questions. I found it to be an excellent read on this subject.

For both believers and non-believers

Richard Elliott Friedman - The Hidden Face of GOD

15 posted on 12/08/2001 3:37:56 PM PST by Stars N Stripes
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But He isn't hiding....

Look at the stars!

Look at the seasons!...

Listen to your heart!

19 posted on 12/08/2001 3:42:42 PM PST by No!
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He's not hiding. Man is asleep. I challenge anyone to show me where he "awoke"?

Gen.2

1.[21] And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon
Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and
closed up the flesh instead thereof;

21 posted on 12/08/2001 3:47:26 PM PST by It'salmosttolate
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"For I know the plans I have for you,says the Lord.They are plans for good and not evil,to give you a future and hope. In those days when you pray, I will listen. You will find me when you seek me,if you look for me in earnest."

Jerimiah 29:11-13

24 posted on 12/08/2001 4:07:09 PM PST by mdittmar
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Would someone on this thread who believes the many things that have been pointed to as evidence of God, are enough to believe in God, what you mean by faith?

If there is enough evidence for belief in God, what do you need faith for. If faith is required for belief in God, then all your arguments about evidence are incorrect. If faith is required, there must not be enough evidence.

I don't see how you can have it both ways. I have noticed, however, that people of some brands of faith don't mind holding contradictions.

Thanks!

Hank

31 posted on 12/08/2001 4:20:32 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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Either God is a whimp or he created a whole bunch of other gods and universes to join him. Which means he too was created by a god for the same reasons. Just ask Mrs. God. And perhaps, just perhaps all this talk and writings over the thousands of years has been a hoax perpetrated by evil doers to keep man from realizing that he is a god so that they could proclaim themselves as God's interpreter. Proclaim themselves and their writings as the authority.

That our universe has many gods throughout. Yet they (the gods)have no need or desire to contact and communicate with whimpish Earthlings.

33 posted on 12/08/2001 4:31:32 PM PST by Zon
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It's not that God is hiding, it's just that some people aren't looking in the right place.
35 posted on 12/08/2001 4:36:48 PM PST by Valin
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To: Notwithstanding
Bump.
36 posted on 12/08/2001 4:37:21 PM PST by Slyfox
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"And He walks with me and he talks with me and He tells me I am his own." This old song really answers your question. Our problem is that most of us do not take the time to listen.
38 posted on 12/08/2001 4:39:27 PM PST by Faith-Hope
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God is not hiding. He can be seen everywhere.
39 posted on 12/08/2001 4:41:27 PM PST by spoosman
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Etiquette question: When God sneezes what does one say?
41 posted on 12/08/2001 4:43:21 PM PST by aculeus
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Do you know, or can you find, Albert Einstein's remark that "there are many other dimensions" - that the human mind has not evolved enough to be able to understand?

I've searched but can't come up with it.

43 posted on 12/08/2001 5:04:00 PM PST by lakey
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Man was no longer able to tolerate such closeness, and thus the protests began. This great protest has precise names-first it is called the Synagogue, and then Islam.
47 posted on 12/08/2001 5:28:02 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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