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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic should stay. If it ever goes into a paid membership status I would join, not only because it is worth it, but it would keep the disruptors to a minimum, and the ones that would get banned, we could get a chuckle out of the fact that they basically paid to get banned.

I've been a moderator on others boards and know of the stress and drama that these dipsticks can create, to hell with them and the fact that they cannot compete with the Free Republic Forums, or apparently move on.

This IS A GREAT FORUM, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.


3,441 posted on 08/05/2002 2:42:52 PM PDT by KineticKitty
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; Jim Robinson; habs4ever; Bitwhacker
They can conspire, and bitch and moan, and gripe and complain and report what "THEY ARE BEING TOLD" and all that other garbage..but they will never be able to get rid of FR....
3,442 posted on 08/05/2002 2:42:56 PM PDT by Neets
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it up and keep it alive.
You wanna charge a fee--send me a bill and I'll pay.
Don't worry about the disruptors, we'll take care of them.
Can't stop it now, I'm just starting to get the hang of HTML
The VRWC has to have a home and this is it.
Where else can I write my letters to Lieberman and get them sent round the world?
November elections are coming and we need a place to rant.
2004 elections are coming after that and we need a place to savage the left
We don't have the Senate in our control yet
I want to say I told you so to all the Bush-bashers
I'll step up my contributions to help pay for the lavish life being lived by you all (sarcasm)
3,443 posted on 08/05/2002 2:44:11 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: All; Jim Robinson
Keep it ? There's not a dimes worth of difference between a DU'er and a Freeper is there ?
3,444 posted on 08/05/2002 2:45:30 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Jim Robinson
Ironic isn't it. The AFers claim the problem with FR is the lack of freedom to debate. Everybody has to march in lock step. No room for competing ideas. Blah, blah, blah...

So I took a gander over at LP. Funny, there are about 20 people that spend all day agreeing with each other.

It's a real mutual admiration society over there.

I guess it's all a matter of how you define "debate".

If it's all the same to you, I'll stay right here.
3,445 posted on 08/05/2002 2:45:35 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Jim Robinson
Anti-freepers are people with no life but to wake in the morning check FR, cut and paste a post or two run back to LP and post it. LOL

LOSERS!
3,446 posted on 08/05/2002 2:46:52 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic shall never die!
3,447 posted on 08/05/2002 2:47:52 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: Jim Robinson
We need this like Paul Revere needed the minutemen to warn if the British are coming. We cannot afford to lose this vital information link until the terrorists have been eradicated.

And even after the terrorist are all gone bye-bye, I'll still need my daily dose of FR. Not only is this a forum, but also an educator, a classroom, a knowledge builder, an international news provider. Those that are negative about FR and about you Jim, can go and take their place with Mohammad Atta and the rest of that sorry lot. Let them begone!!!! Scat!!! Vamoose!!!!

I am happy to donate what I can for I receive much.

3,448 posted on 08/05/2002 2:47:53 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Jim Robinson
If Liberals rode their people half as hard as conservatives ride theirs, our job would be done.

Since that is not the case....Yes, Free Republic is needed...desperately!

3,449 posted on 08/05/2002 2:48:45 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: Jim Robinson; jjbrouwer
Jimbo

As I have told you before I am not an anti-freeper - though I agree with some of the criticisms of your occasionally censorous and xenophobic forum.

Though Mojo, Miggs, GalFromtheBay and an assortment of other conspiracy theory wackos post at Liberty Post it is unfair to tar everyone with the same brush. BobJ posts there (under several names), as does your son John and some other decent folks.

I fully expect you to zap this post in about five minutes flat. However, I am sure you will read it (and misunderstand it) nonetheless.

3,450 posted on 08/05/2002 2:49:45 PM PDT by The Mother Country
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To: Jim Robinson
Well stated, Jim! Keep up the good work and ignore the litigious trolls under the bridge.
3,451 posted on 08/05/2002 2:52:03 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Jim Robinson
"Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour."
Eccl. 4:4

Success breeds envy. Take some satisfaction that you are a success, in that some feel the need to expend so much time and energy in trying to bring you down. However, the opinions of such are not worthy of much reflection.

The best thing to do is ignore detractors who you know have no basis for their complaints. When dealing with the general public, you are bound to run into such people.
3,452 posted on 08/05/2002 2:56:12 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: The Mother Country
I fully expect you to zap this post in about five minutes flat. However, I am sure you will read it (and misunderstand it) nonetheless

I post at LP and don't take Jim's comments to mean an insult at me...people know who he is talking about here...and I am willing to bet you donuts to dollars this post WILL STAY.

3,453 posted on 08/05/2002 2:57:08 PM PDT by Neets
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To: angelo
"Jim has always said, and I always agreed, that America needed 100 Free Republics."

Well said.
3,454 posted on 08/05/2002 2:57:57 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep the ship Free Republic afloat with your steady hand at the helm, Jim. Those who wish to go overboard may do so with the full blessing the rest of us who wish to continue the cruise.
3,455 posted on 08/05/2002 2:58:51 PM PDT by What Is Ain't
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To: OneidaM
You're on, Neets. But I want an English donut with cream and jam.
3,456 posted on 08/05/2002 2:59:30 PM PDT by The Mother Country
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To: The Mother Country
Ok MC...deal...but that donut sounds more like a SCONE...LOL.
3,457 posted on 08/05/2002 3:01:28 PM PDT by Neets
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To: The Mother Country
Your post can stay, but you, dear one, will be banned again. How many times will this make it? My guess is more than 40 times. Are you keeping track?
3,458 posted on 08/05/2002 3:02:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: JPJones
Very proud to be a tiny part of this website and the history it is making.

Same here, but it is the only beginning.

The best is yet to come.

3,459 posted on 08/05/2002 3:02:46 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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