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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

I agree that FR should be a paid subscription site. It is time for you to make some money in this deal. You have a captive audience, and there is no other site like it on the web. That is the American way. Make some money. Forget this non-profit crap.

281 posted on 11/28/2001 8:26:31 PM PST by spoosman
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To: Jim Robinson
I get more out of this site than I am able to afford to contribute (I contribute what I can). Damn the critics. Nobody is forcing them to fund ANYTHING. Their egos cloud their judgment.

We're not even close to completing our mission! Do what you have to do.
282 posted on 11/28/2001 8:27:19 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Jim Robinson
This is THE best website on the internet! Period!
283 posted on 11/28/2001 8:27:22 PM PST by BillofRights
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To: eloy
Thanks for posting the site for donations. I had not donated since last February (how easy it is to forget!) and have rectified that tonight through your link.
284 posted on 11/28/2001 8:27:26 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Bob J
I trust JimRob but I don't trust you.

When he says no accountability he means him, when you do what does it mean?

Who is in charge here?

285 posted on 11/28/2001 8:27:28 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Jim Robinson
Subscription only, multi-tiered, one for reading privileges and several levels for different degrees or numbers of posts.

If you want to post vanities you're going to pay more than the one or two line reply. If you want to reply to every post you pay more than the guy who replies to one post a week.

Donations are fine but you know how that works, a core of people always give, some give on occasion but the majority give nothing.

Subscription service might also help conserve bandwidth by keepng out the trolls, contrarians, disrupters and foreign provocateurs.

286 posted on 11/28/2001 8:27:29 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: Notwithstanding
Too long a story to detail. A disgruntled FReeper? You could say that, and a royal pain in the a$$ as well.

I'm not really the one to tell this story, and I don't think that this is the place or time, but I think that you may be able to find some old threads in archives telling the story.

287 posted on 11/28/2001 8:27:40 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: WillaJohns
Hey it's nothing new. I said it loudly enough the last time one of these threads came up. Although I notice you didn't bother to post any of my reasoning. I'm hoping to weed you out with the 60$ price tag.
288 posted on 11/28/2001 8:28:16 PM PST by mercy
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To: Jim Robinson
Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up.

FR has a statement of purpose on the main page. That statement may be the single thing that unites most of us, and FR is still helping to accomplish it IMHO.

On a personal, selfish level I have found it immensely useful in simply keeping up on the news, especially since the war began. But it has also been critical in pointing me toward homeschooling resources and in learning about citizen activism on behalf of other causes that are (to me) critical in restoring this Republic.

Some of what goes on here is small-minded, and some of it is harmlessly dopey. But I think you would be surprised to learn how much of it is instrumental in helping citizens learn how to take their country back.

289 posted on 11/28/2001 8:28:22 PM PST by untenured
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To: Reagan is King
Thanks for posting the "Secure Link" donation is sent

********* HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL FREEPERS ***********

290 posted on 11/28/2001 8:28:24 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: Captainpaintball
Example: I'm in college and unemployed, living off my savings, so I'll pay what I can now, and when I hit the "big time" I can "step up the ca$h flow"...

Amen brother (or sister). We are kindred spirits.
291 posted on 11/28/2001 8:28:25 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
You are right, I love the monthly giving off my credit card. You never have to think about it and you know that you aren't a moocher. I don't mind paying, it's an honor. 207 posted on 11/28/01 9:10 PM Pacific by Hillary's Lovely Legs

'Zackly.

Enjoyed lurking your (several) threads on the trials and travails of finding a nice, Conservative gent in today's dating market.

To which I can only say, HLL... judging by your FR photo-profile... were you just a few years younger, and lived a little further South... I'd have no objection to cocktails & a symphony. ;-)

(Male secret -- Redheads are always entitled to extra points over brunettes and blondes. Just don't tell the blondes, we've got them thinking that they have us by a string...)

292 posted on 11/28/2001 8:29:12 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: Aggie Mama
That's a very good idea. I have sent a lot of people over to FR, most of whom are slowly becoming addicted. =) However, it took them time to become aquiainted with the site. Prayers for the preservation of your wonderful enterprise.

Thanks, but I think you meant to direct the "wonderful enterprise" part to Jim, not me.

293 posted on 11/28/2001 8:29:19 PM PST by LJLucido
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To: Jim Robinson
"Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. "

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need this place!!!!!

Please please PLEASE please please don't take it away from me!!!!

Whatever it takes to help keep FR alive, I'll do it!!!

294 posted on 11/28/2001 8:29:44 PM PST by MozartLover
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I'd be lost here in the blue Garden State without FreeRepublic. This site, when I found it in October 1998 made me realize I wasn't alone in my disgust with X-42, and I attended the March for Justice that month with 4,000 other Freepers.

Thank you for this site. Please know that, out here in the ether world of the internet, your efforts and the efforts by John to maintain and improve this site are so much appreciated by all of us.

You are correct that FR has played a role in historic events of the past few years. And it will in the future also.

Although I've contributed in the past, I realize that I need to do this on a more regular basis. And I will.

God bless you, Jim, and thanks for the privilege of being part of the FR family.

295 posted on 11/28/2001 8:30:05 PM PST by exit82
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To: spoosman; Jim Robinson
"I agree that FR should be a paid subscription site."

Not a bad idea! Maybe a Dual Site like Rush's with a Free Area as well as Premium Areas!

296 posted on 11/28/2001 8:30:06 PM PST by Mad Dawgg
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I love FR. It's my favorite site to come to in order to get the pulse of conservative America.

I appreciate this forum and all the people who participate. They are truly top notch, for the most part.

297 posted on 11/28/2001 8:30:17 PM PST by okstatemom
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To: sinkspur
You have FReepmail.
298 posted on 11/28/2001 8:30:23 PM PST by Silly
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To: anniegetyourgun
I can see it now....comments like:

"HEY, I paid my $10, so I can swear, blaspheme, and threaten all I want."

I've already seen posts not too far removed from that.

300 posted on 11/28/2001 8:30:24 PM PST by Don Joe
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