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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I will be homeless if FR is gone. Please let us know where to send our humble donation.
1,901 posted on 11/29/2001 4:05:20 PM PST by desertcry
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To: Alex DeLarge
A BLACK PROJECT?

Your ignorance is astounding.

1,903 posted on 11/29/2001 4:06:25 PM PST by Fury
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To: malador
against all his trickery, deceit and chopping up the constitution into bits and pieces...these same people worship him just like he's God even though he's doing many of the same things as Clinton.

What exactly has George W. Bush done that is anything CLOSE to what Bill Clinton has done? What trickery, what deceit, what chopping up of the Constitution?

1,904 posted on 11/29/2001 4:07:31 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Alex DeLarge
This site is a country club for snobbery and personal attacks. I am an Independent Conservative and have been for 30 years. I have always leaned toward the Republican side but if this site and its members represent Republicanism I care not to associate with this kind. You people are no better then Demoncrates. As I read old posts from years ago I see there were people with ideas and made this site truly enjoyable to read. Today if full of fluff and censorship. You are actually getting paid to run this site? What a scam! How much do you pay your censors who work 24/7? You should cancel this site, but since its run as a BLACK PROJECT it never will go away.

Yes!! I can see you as a big contributor.

1,905 posted on 11/29/2001 4:08:44 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Arator
My early announcement that she was a fake (based on the assurances of our mutual friend) settled the issue for no one.

I was wondering if you were going to call her a liar.

So, that later post of mine began a thread whose purpose was to assemble in one place, all the pro-con arguments.

Let me try to get this straight: you KNEW it wasn't me early on, but you just put up a thread to SEE what everybody else thought?

Why didn't you just tell them that somebody YOU TRUSTED told you it wasn't me and that was good enough for you?

1,907 posted on 11/29/2001 4:09:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
My esteem for this forum remains as steady as your firm hand at the helm. Your vision, strength and tenacity remain an example for all of us.
1,908 posted on 11/29/2001 4:10:08 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Jim Robinson
This is the best site on the internet. I have learned a lot, made friends and got politically active. I will not turn this country over to a bunch of socialists without a fight. Disruptors will always be there - ignore them.
1,909 posted on 11/29/2001 4:10:39 PM PST by austingirl
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To: Howlin
Why don't you know...he stole the Presidency from Prince Albert. Not only that Hillary said that he had undone all of their 8 years of work in 8 months. Anyone that can do that might just set Socialism back 100 years in 8 years time.
1,910 posted on 11/29/2001 4:10:52 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Alex DeLarge
This site is a country club for snobbery and personal attacks.

And you know this after two days? At least be honest enough to admit who you were before you became Alex.

You're no independent. You're a Patsie.

1,911 posted on 11/29/2001 4:11:22 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Alex DeLarge
The door works both ways. See ya!
1,912 posted on 11/29/2001 4:11:40 PM PST by airborne
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To: Jim Robinson
I want it to keep going.

I'm speaking up.

1,913 posted on 11/29/2001 4:12:29 PM PST by Principled
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To: RonDog; Jim Robinson
I do not see FR as a fraud. And I do not wish for it to go away. I learn a lot from the posters many of whom I may or may not agree with. And I would gladly put in my small contribution. I'm sending it in the mail so look for it.
1,914 posted on 11/29/2001 4:12:46 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Jim Robinson
Please just keep up the wonderful work you do to keep America FREE!!!

God Bless you and your crew and America!!!

1,915 posted on 11/29/2001 4:12:59 PM PST by shotabug
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To: Howlin
GW covers for Clinton regularly. Check the archives. Also, did Clinton ever call for military tribunals with secret proceedings? Also, how many of Clinton's last minute EOs had GW rescinded. Two? And he back tracked on the arsenic thingEy anyway, so you can't count that one. That leaves the worker injury EO. None others rescinded that I can recall.

So, in short, GW is simply continuing the Clinton legacy of massive cover-ups, power-grabs, land-grabs, and scandal.

Cheers!

1,916 posted on 11/29/2001 4:13:13 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Equal_Protection_My_Ass
All those cities which have been controlled by the progressives have really improved things for the poor stuck in their slums. Not.

The only people who tried to steal the election were progressive Democrats and their stooges in the SCOFLA.

As for progressives, over the holiday I had the pleasure of picking up a copy of Newsweek from 1976. Liberals controlled 2/3 of Congress and had the Presidency. So if you want to compare the relative health of conservatism and liberalism, I am comfortable that we are in much better shape.

Which is good for blacks, whites, poor folk, rich folk, and so forth. Progressives need to create more misery in order to lure more voters for them to help by the barrel of the government's guns via the tax collector. Conservatives want a better life for everyone.

Progressives know this to be the case, and have been smearing us with their lies forever, because they know once we have a solid majority in all houses, the lot of their lies will be shown to be just that, and once the stranglehold they have on the minority vote is broken, their dreams of a Marxist takeover are gone forever.

1,917 posted on 11/29/2001 4:15:07 PM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: Arator
FReind. Jim Robinson let me stay here when I acted badly as a new FReeper.

He has let you in time and time again.

"Kicked in the groin"?

I would suggest that you have slapped him in the face a few times.

Ease up. You could always go to Pipebomb News. But it wouldn't be half as satisfying as Free Republic.

1,918 posted on 11/29/2001 4:15:32 PM PST by LibKill
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To: JDoutrider
I agree. Others have suggested a fee for posting and I think that would be the first thing to try. Posting meaning both replies and articles for the same fee. Charging for access to the site would be self defeating and would relegate us to preaching to the choir. Among other things, lurkers are looking for information and validation of their conservative stands. The posting fee could also encompass vanities with maybe a limit per month and a limit on their length. Vanities can be informative and thought provoking. Maybe it is the length rather than their frequency that is costly. Suggest posting fee of $5.00 per month. This should supplement contributions and not replace them.
1,919 posted on 11/29/2001 4:16:05 PM PST by mountainfolk
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To: airborne
The door works both ways. See ya!

Not to 'ol Alex. He not only wants, no demands the right to post, and then he complains about how the site is run. I am sure he donates to FR.

Alex, did you try sending a message to JimRob privately about your objections? No, I suspect not. You cherry picked the site for its benefits and then complained about your experience.

YOU are a classic disruptor. My guess is that in many activities in life you would be a disruptor. FR is just another place for you to vent.

1,920 posted on 11/29/2001 4:16:14 PM PST by Fury
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