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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Oooooh... how mysterious and thought-provoking! You're sooooo cool.

Just kidding.

;-/

1,661 posted on 11/29/2001 12:59:50 PM PST by Gargantua
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Hiya, Harry. Welcome back.

I really don't believe that needs an explanation. What about it don't you understand? Clarity posts that he's leaving and the moss-covered-rock dwellers IMMEDIATELY show up on the thread.

"Cue" is an entertainment term as a stage or camera direction for the talent as well as camera and stage management. It's not very difficult to anticipate the "cues" from the players in the melodrama from the dark side.

Need anything further, or can I go out for the evening now? LOL

1,662 posted on 11/29/2001 1:00:06 PM PST by Clinton's a liar
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To: ReaganGirl
Hey !! With a name like "Badjoe" how could anyone call me a name any worse. : )
1,663 posted on 11/29/2001 1:00:32 PM PST by BADJOE
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To: mountainfolk
Your 1383: You nailed it.
1,664 posted on 11/29/2001 1:00:42 PM PST by alcuin
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To: Z2
You are one sick dude.
1,665 posted on 11/29/2001 1:00:45 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Registered
"I went on a date with her once. Honest."

Do tell...

1,666 posted on 11/29/2001 1:02:20 PM PST by Bob J
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To: diotima
"It does kind of make one hear "Time to take your meds..." echoing in the backround, doesn't it?"

Well, since you asked -- YES! LOL

Gotta dash. C-ya.

1,667 posted on 11/29/2001 1:02:39 PM PST by Clinton's a liar
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To: Z2
Go straight to hell and don't come back!
1,668 posted on 11/29/2001 1:03:26 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Bob J
I think sometimes you and others expect too much from the Forum. I think of it as a garden...you'll always have a few weeds, bugs, rot...but if well tended, a bounty at harvest time.

I think your garden analogy is very apt. A GOOD gardener tends it carefully, gently, with loving care, making sure to extract only the weeds so that the good plants might bear prodigious fruit. A BAD gardener hacks at his plants indiscriminately with a meat ax, felling many good plants hoping to get at the occasional weed. A REALLY BAD gardener makes war on the weeds by torching everything growing, weeds and healthy plants alike.

Having witnessed many a good fruit-bearing FReeper plant get yanked out of the garden and treated like some noxious weed (not to mention many a fruit-bearing thread), a little GOOD gardening is definitely in order.

1,669 posted on 11/29/2001 1:03:45 PM PST by Arator
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To: alcuin
Ahoy! How's your fibre?

Har!

Just a touch bloat, now and again. How's by youse?

1,670 posted on 11/29/2001 1:04:15 PM PST by harrowup
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To: Jim Robinson
Freerepublic has become a major part of my daily life since I joined up. I met my very best friend whom I adore and I love the news. If freerepublic goes away, my life would be out of order.
1,671 posted on 11/29/2001 1:04:43 PM PST by Emmanual_Goldstein16
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To: Bob J
Thanks for the info Bob J. I'll be opening my squeaky wallet at the next fundraiser. Season's Greetings!
1,672 posted on 11/29/2001 1:05:00 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Jim Robinson
Chuck Allen was never banned. I wish we could clear up whatever it is that is bugging him.

Me too. By the way, I hope that my earlier posts did not leave the wrong immpression. Thanks for Free Republic and please keep the lights on!

1,673 posted on 11/29/2001 1:05:07 PM PST by Topaz
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To: harrowup
what ticks him off is that he isn't running it

Bite your tongue. I've seen him run a site; good lord, they inmates took over!

1,674 posted on 11/29/2001 1:05:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Bob J
As soon as we get around to deciding if they are worth it...heheh.

THIS THREAD WAS WORTH IT. NOW THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT. Wait of course they will. They will fight and attack their own sites and posters. LOL

1,675 posted on 11/29/2001 1:06:00 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: ClancyJ
I believe we're on the same team... I just find some of the issues Arator and others are more to the point of what FreeRepublic is all about. I for one get sick of seeing some turning this site into a dating service, recipe exchange, and/or any other silly vanity page.

Freegards

1,676 posted on 11/29/2001 1:07:03 PM PST by KKing
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To: Arator
Many of us have not heard from him since, and are thrilled to run into him again.

You act like you are one of us; you are not.

It's an old timee FReeper thing. If you last as long here, one day, you'll understand.

Fortunately, it won't take that long to get your number.

1,677 posted on 11/29/2001 1:07:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TKEman
"Go to the start tab, and click on the links to the other web sites. The answers to your questions will be found there. Look over the Talkspot information."

You can't be serious.

I actually did exactly what you asked; I went to the Website whose URL you provided, and as God is my witness, I just spent hours over there.........digging through thread after thread after thread after "archive" after thread.............and you know what I saw, TKE?

Just another load of whiny, vicious, nasty people commiserating with one another about "what a crook JimRob is" (although he's usually given another, just lovely monicker), or "FR's fleecing the sheep again!!!", or "FR will be gone next month!!", or the latest "Those morons don't know that FR was slapped with a million dollar judgment on behalf of the LA Times and the Washington Post!! HA!!!Ha, HA!!!", and other glorious pieces.

Oh, of course, there are the usual suspects, including Eschoir in all of his fat, slimy glory..........the one sumbitch I've run into on this forum that I'd LOVE to meet in person some time.

I took you up on your offer, TKE, and I did it in good faith and gave it FAR more effort than it deserved. I stuck with the filth to be able to "look you in your eye" here and tell you that anyone who would spend that much time on a Web site dedicated solely to attacking another Web site............yep; say that out loud and hear how incredibly childish it sounds..........is incredibly pathetic.

You want to make your point, TKE? You and the others? Post FACTS. FACTS. Hard-core FACTS; proof of malfeasance, or waste or abuse or SOMETHING............anything that someone can take at face value and then act upon.

Until you can do that, you can have your little playground over there.

I suddenly feel like I need a shower.

1,678 posted on 11/29/2001 1:07:58 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: piasa
bravo!
1,679 posted on 11/29/2001 1:08:29 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Clinton's a liar
"It's not very difficult to anticipate the "cues" from the players in the melodrama from the dark side."

Indeed.

1,680 posted on 11/29/2001 1:09:57 PM PST by Hugh Akston
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