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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Liberal Classic
Just send the $. You should send twice the $ that you have sent in the past.
1,481 posted on 11/29/2001 10:14:51 AM PST by fallclassicus
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To: Lazamataz
LOL!

This really happened? So he's not a liar, but an idiot?

1,482 posted on 11/29/2001 10:15:11 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Liberal Classic; fallclassicus
IMHO she is both a liar and an idiot.

Marine Inspector

1,483 posted on 11/29/2001 10:15:19 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Ratatoskr
>>>>>The c) scream your head off for someone in authority to deal with it for you option is embarrassing.

Can you clarify? I'm not feeling very embarrassed right now. Should it be me that is embarrased or is it you that is embarrassed for the poor reflection on the forum and freepers in general?

And, do you like cheese?

patent

1,484 posted on 11/29/2001 10:15:40 AM PST by patent
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To: fallclassicus; Jim Robinson
JR: Make note of the fact that someone who (supposedly) (I frankly doubt it) will be hitting you with a lawsuit is in fact posting over here in full violation of your order banning them from trespassing on your electronic property. They have admitted to being an individual who has been banned from posting here. I imagine a countersuit is in order here -- should the utterly improbable occur.
1,485 posted on 11/29/2001 10:16:22 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Jim Robinson
also made lots of bitter enemies

I don't have to tell you, but the liberals number one agenda is to control the hearts and minds of everyone (along with just about everything else).

If this is your goal, the first thing on your to-do list is to control the information flow and silence dissent.

They darn well may have succeeded if not for people like Rush, yourself, and, as of late, the people at FOX.

They will try to bankrupt you, try to get your ISP to drop you, sue you, call you names, and probably accuse you of stealing their dog.

If none of this works, they will just try to irritate you to death.

You are not alone, just ask any well known conservative figure.

Keep up the good work.

FRegards, Al

1,486 posted on 11/29/2001 10:17:45 AM PST by ahariail
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To: Arator
Gargantua is one of the all time FReeper greats,

BWAAAAHAHAHAhahahahahaha!!

1,487 posted on 11/29/2001 10:18:13 AM PST by OWK
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To: fallclassicus
Your attorney has a fool for a client. If you actually have a lawsuit pending against Mr. Jim Robinson, do you realize how stupid it is for you come here and make trouble? Are you going against his advice not to discuss the case?

ROTFLMAO

1,488 posted on 11/29/2001 10:18:53 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Marine Inspector
Agreed.
1,489 posted on 11/29/2001 10:19:59 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Lazamataz; fallclassicus; Jim Robinson; Sidebar Moderator
JR: Make note of the fact that someone who (supposedly) (I frankly doubt it) will be hitting you with a lawsuit is in fact posting over here in full violation of your order banning them from trespassing on your electronic property.

Plus, they're being really poopy about it.

1,490 posted on 11/29/2001 10:20:04 AM PST by Silly
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To: Z2
FR can't be a 501(c)(3). Ask me why and I'll tell you.

Why? (Although I don't know if it would help the fair use claim anyway.)

1,491 posted on 11/29/2001 10:20:25 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Lazamataz
I hope a moose bites his sister....
1,492 posted on 11/29/2001 10:21:07 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Z2
Why don't you post me the linky-poo just for fun. Or freepmail me the link...
1,493 posted on 11/29/2001 10:21:38 AM PST by diotima
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To: Liberal Classic
This really happened? So he's not a liar, but an idiot?

This really happened. A government drone sent a nasty email to JimRob after being banned from FR for profanity / etc. He swore he would bring Free Republic down.

It was signed joeblow@stateagency.sc.GOV

.GOV......

hmmmmmm.....

So someone is on state time, using state property, to harass a political web site, in full violation of many laws and regulations, not the least of which is the Hatch Act????

Hmmmmm......

So many hundreds of intrepid Freepers made polite inquiries to the state authorities, and the individual in question was, in fact, NOT authorized to be harassing a political site or group on state time and using state equipment. This individual was termininated, in full accordance with the laws and regulations of that state, and the state authorities issued a genuine and sincere apology for the harassment.

:o)

1,494 posted on 11/29/2001 10:21:47 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: patent
I like cheese just fine. And, no doubt, you're going to love it in a little while when those moderators you yelled for decide the cheese posts are off-topic and unsuitable to the dignity of the forum and begin deleting them, and banning the cheeseheads, right and left.

We really don't need a class of meta-FReepers making judgement calls for us, do we? All our speech are belong to them?

1,495 posted on 11/29/2001 10:22:15 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: Liberal Classic
This really happened? So he's not a liar, but an idiot?

I was thinking more along the lines of malsentient, but I'm not sure if that's really a word.

1,496 posted on 11/29/2001 10:22:31 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: elfman2
501(c)(3) corporations are prohibitied from supporting candidates for public office. Please see the code at Cornell Law School.
1,497 posted on 11/29/2001 10:24:07 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Jim Robinson
Not Fraud stop Just addictive stop Sending $ asap full stop
1,498 posted on 11/29/2001 10:24:18 AM PST by mamaduck
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To: Lazamataz
Thank you, Lazamataz. You just made my day! :)
1,499 posted on 11/29/2001 10:25:11 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: malador
but this jingoism is really sick.

Care to explain to me the difference in the Bushie's rants that you object to so much and YOURS, which seems to be a rant, too? Why is theirs "jingoism" and yours not?

Is it just that it's YOU saying it, and not somebody else, that makes what you think okay, but what a Bushie might say ojectionable?

1,500 posted on 11/29/2001 10:25:26 AM PST by Howlin
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