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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Good to see you back Harry.
1,341 posted on 11/29/2001 8:48:40 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: GeronL
I would urge you to check out the site, and the links to information on the start tab:

www.delphi.com\frureform

1,342 posted on 11/29/2001 8:49:28 AM PST by TKEman
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To: Jim Robinson
KEEP THE FREEP!!!kEEP THE FREEP!!!KEEP THE FREEP!!!!
1,343 posted on 11/29/2001 8:49:45 AM PST by angry beaver norbert
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To: pattycake
Why do you come on this forum knowing full well it is conservative. You are not welcome, but we will tolerate your ilk.

What on earth are you talking about?

I don't have any ilk, I'm fresh out at the moment.

1,344 posted on 11/29/2001 8:49:58 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Good to see ya, Inspector.
Wish you would stay.
1,345 posted on 11/29/2001 8:51:07 AM PST by carenot
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To: GeronL
Interesting philosophy. I would urge you to check out the information at the linked pages at:

www.delphi.com\frureform

1,346 posted on 11/29/2001 8:51:28 AM PST by TKEman
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To: Jim Robinson
Ok....just came in from shoveling snow (I HATE winter)...and the number of replies is over 1300....

Most of them want Free Republic to be here.

So..I guess the next problem to solve is HOW.

Let's figure it out...and get on with 'Saving the Republic'.

redrock

1,347 posted on 11/29/2001 8:51:56 AM PST by redrock
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To: Arator
Sweetheart, Honey pie, sugar bear...
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
1,348 posted on 11/29/2001 8:52:04 AM PST by diotima
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Well now, Hairy; you claim you are not part of the neocoven that has developed around A RAT OR similar rodent who seems to have distanced himself from the hamsters and maggots that infest the anti-freeper sites.

That's ok. A RAT OR similar rodent is a bald face lying [pre-edited]. You are too, Hairy. Calling me Admiral marks you as taking up Mochajoke's lies and misrepresentations hook line and sinker. That puts you in the same category as A Navy Vet who thought he could wallow with the antifreepers without getting covered with their feces.

Now, I certainly hope you are not banned again for I would like the opportunity to take a shot at you now and again along with Kevin Curry and Cultural Jihad and Fred25, Z2 and the thinned skinned moderators around here. Why would I wish to be so petty?

Simple...you're jerks.

1,349 posted on 11/29/2001 8:53:11 AM PST by harrowup
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To: beckett
Specifically, what problems do you have with my post? I would urge you to check out the information contained at

www.delphi.com\frureform

The start page also has links to other sites regarding the record.

1,350 posted on 11/29/2001 8:53:33 AM PST by TKEman
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim...I do not know HOW I would get buy without FR....don't get rid of it.
1,351 posted on 11/29/2001 8:54:06 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Republic
Why on EARTH would you ever get mad at me? :-)
1,352 posted on 11/29/2001 8:54:08 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Hiya Harry!!!

Good to see ya!!!!!!

Hope you stick around......

redrock

1,353 posted on 11/29/2001 8:54:19 AM PST by redrock
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To: harrowup
Hi Admiral!
1,354 posted on 11/29/2001 8:54:31 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Arator
Hey, Arator!

Good to post alongside you again. I am somewhat puzzled by this JimRob post... which is to say, if FReepers decide the time has come for the FR jig to "be up", JimRob will be the first to know it by the drying up of the donated cash.

If, on the other hand, this thread is merely a more-subtle-than-some-of-the-recent fundraising drives, I applaud the marketing strategy employed.

It gets the message out without the offensive Catholic "donation plate in your face" affrontery, and it plays effectively on peoples' generosity right around Christmastime... always an effective technique.

Anyway, Happy Holidays, Arator! Hope to be seeing you around!

;-/

1,355 posted on 11/29/2001 8:56:15 AM PST by Gargantua
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To: Otto von Bismark
I could take your post seriously if "Bismarck" was spelled properly. I would encourage you to go over to:

www.delphi.com\frureform

Check out the information and links on the start page.

1,356 posted on 11/29/2001 8:56:26 AM PST by TKEman
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To: TKEman
You realize, of course that this is simply a tool to generate funds.

What I realize is that you are a malcontent. You whine here; you whine over there. Why don't you go start your own web site.

1,357 posted on 11/29/2001 8:56:54 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, perhaps you could require every person banned to pay a 15 buck fine? I do not know how it would be enforced exactly, but that would help to keep people in line and also give some much-needed cash with as many people get banned! Frankly though, it is too bad we don't have 10,000 giving 3 bucks.....
1,358 posted on 11/29/2001 8:57:02 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: BADJOE
You are a genuine pain in the rear.

Thank you. I take that as a high complement.

I would have been the most devoted and loyal FReeper here had only my right (and the right of many of my FReeper friends) to express our CONSERVATIVE political views freely been respected and met with fierce counter-argument instead of censorship. But, being a freedom-loving CONSERVATIVE American, I don't take kindly to bullying, abusive cult-like intimidation tactics, and just plain tyranny from any quarter. Finding such behavior here at the web's foremost "conservative" forum was as shocking a discovery as I've ever had to make. It is so incongruent with everything conservatives claim to stand for. And yet, there it is, in all its perverse ugliness right here on FR. I can do nothing else but speak out against it, and be banned for my trouble if need be. I can only wonder why more freedom-loving FReepers don't do the same.

1,359 posted on 11/29/2001 8:57:04 AM PST by Arator
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To: Jim Robinson
Hi Jim,
I just want to say you have a great idea, and a great website! If money is the problem, come up with a model for making money that allows you to keep it going, i.e. all users pay a monthly, or quarterly, fee, or some other method. This has the advantage of keeping out the riff raff.
The internet is like dealing with the general public, you have lots of good people, and some bad apples. I wouldn't pay attention to the bad apples who harass you, or make false accusations. Just ignore them, your success is evident in your growth. I'm surprised you feel the need to have this thread.
TheDon
1,360 posted on 11/29/2001 8:58:33 AM PST by TheDon
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