St Paul foresaw Islam; warned against Preterism

Biible and myself | 27 Nov 2001 | myself

[Free the USA]

FYI bump

[crystalk]

FYI here is more crystalkery.

[Don Myers]

bttt

[dennisw]

Great essay. I like all your posts. Now don't get a swelled head :)

[St.Chuck]

Mind providing chapter and verse on the Mt. of Olives speech you refer to?

[crazykatz]

Thanks for posting this. Excellent.

[crystalk]

Oh, for starters, Matthew 23:37 to 24:15, or all of Ch. 24...Mark also says the same thing in ch. 13 esp vs 14 etc. NT and OT foretell unending war between Christendom and Islam ending only with Armageddon and the Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ. See also Luke 17, Luke 21, Rev 3, Rev 11, or just read the whole NT plus the OT from Psalm 80 or so on.

[farmfriend]

bttt

[Emmanual_Goldstein16]

Been hearing variations on this subject for about six years now. The math and the dates are facinating. First read about it in a book called SOZO a survival guide for a remnant church by Ellis Skolfield. Great post!

[mickie]

Thank you for posting this.....I only wish everyone would read it.

[crystalk]

Where do you think HE got it? I live in Florida too, and have been teaching it for longer. But never mind, who gets the credit, just so the word gets out, NEVER has the world so needed to hear the words of the prophetic passages of Scripture, and just now we have the evil demon of Preterism right there in the Presbyterian Pulpit telling them the whole thing is done away with and the prophecies don't mean anything.

[Utopia]

Sorry. I just don't buy into this. I guess my biggest problem is the overall premise ... it is only the year 1422 in the Islamic calendar. (Islamic years are even shorter than Gregorian years, so you can't compare.. ) BUT even if you wanted to, how does only 1422 years equate to an ancient culture when it is not...

Trying to interpret obscurisms from past saints' writings as validation of a current belief while condeming Harry Potter seems, well looney to me.

[editor-surveyor]

Very imaginative take-off of God's word, but really just as weak as preterism in two respects:

1. Your re-definition of the abomination of desolation from Antiochus Epiphanes to Mohammad.

2. The abomination of desolation is clearly shown in Revelation to be a world leader/dictator.

Also, desolation literally means to make soiled, or dirty. - The word has been twisted in the 20th century to be a synonym for bleak.

[crystalk]

Bull.

[Free the USA]

FYI

[editor-surveyor]

You're really raising the level of debate here (/sarcasm)

[crystalk]

Better that than try to fool people by introducing outright falsehood, as you do by saying the A of D might have been Antiochus, who flourished some 170's BC, when you know perfectly well that Jesus said it was yet FUTURE IN HIS DAY!

You owe us all an apology for that alone. And trying to pretend that the Heb. "shamam" does now mean, or ever has meant, anything but a wasteland, desert, desolation, esp. one which once DID have inhabitants, is also false and I think you know it.

I repeat, sir, DOUBLE bull!

I call on every Jew and Hebrew speaker reading this to refute and condemn your malign statements.

[maestro]

St Paul foresaw Islam; warned against Preterism

NO WAY!! NO WAY!! PAUL NEVER FORESAW ISLAM!! NEVER!! NO WAY!! NO WAY!!
........ISLAM IS NOT IN PROPHECY,,,,AMERICA IS NOT IN PROPHECY!!

The article is fantacy and vanity!! BABEL-BABEL

THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANCE OF EITHER ISLAM OR AMERICA BECAUSE THE NEW JEWISH TEMPLE IS NOT YET BUILT.

GOD's HOLY PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE IS TO BE THE HOLY PLACE IN THE NEWLY REBUILT JEWISH TEMPLE.

WHEN YOU SEE THAT NEW JEWISH TEMPLE REBUILT,........THEN and ONLY THEN,...START YOUR PROPHETIC TIME CLOCK FOR 'SIGNS of TEMPLE TIMES'....!!

Bottom Line::.........Don't be an 'alarmist' until the New Jewish Temple is Built!!

[good1]

Your essay does much violence to the biblical text.