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Some people just have a desire to be punished. Mary is about to get spanked hard.

Please freep this event if you are in the area.

Mike

1 posted on 11/27/2001 9:42:27 AM PST by BCR #226 (michaels226@hotmail.com)
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To: BCR #226
Bump.
2 posted on 11/27/2001 9:47:30 AM PST by stevio
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To: *bang_list
Bump for great Freeping.
3 posted on 11/27/2001 9:48:48 AM PST by coloradan
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To: BCR #226
Mary Leigh began her crusade against gun violence in 1994, after her 21-year-old son, Matthew was shot by a teen with a Saturday Night Special. The Million Mom March took Washington, D.C., by storm on Mother's Day in 2000 and merged with the Brady Campaign in October 2001.

The crime report for her son's shooting should be publicly available. I wonder if her son was an innocent bystander or somehow involved with the teen doing the shooting.

Any pro-2A sleuths out there?

4 posted on 11/27/2001 9:49:15 AM PST by Frohickey
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To: BCR #226
Similar to the tobacco issue, liberals and DemocRATS do not have the spine to advocate repealing the second amendment. Instead they need a political issue to further their sick/twisted cause. Trial lawyers get to make money off of lawsuits, and in turn contribute to liberal congressman and Senators who in turn make laws to benefit their cash cows. Everytime there is a shooting involving guns, they propose new restriction. Nothing is more evil than a party that will use the death and misery of others to advance themselves politically.
5 posted on 11/27/2001 9:52:03 AM PST by lormand
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To: BCR #226
Mary Leigh needs your support!

Going up against John Lott? She'll need more that that...

Mary Leigh began her crusade against gun violence in 1994, after her 21-year-old son, Matthew was shot by a teen with a Saturday Night Special.

How can this be, since teenagers can't legally own firearms?

6 posted on 11/27/2001 9:55:17 AM PST by Interesting Times
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To: BCR #226
Don't live in the area, but hope debate transcript will be available on freerepublic the following day.
Should this be a massacre, or what? (Um, sorry, bad choice of words).
7 posted on 11/27/2001 9:59:35 AM PST by Psalm 73
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To: BCR #226
I'd be careful on this one. Those MMM's all pack heat and they shoot first and ask questions later.
15 posted on 11/27/2001 10:57:23 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: BCR #226
Million Mom Mole FrontPageMagazine.com | September 27, 2000

ISN'T IT AMAZING how a grass roots even has blossomed overnight into a national political organization? The press releases issued by the Million Mom March (MMM) last spring were designed to give the illusion that the MMM was being run by a few well-meaning Moms from their kitchen table. The media bought into that fairy tale, hook, line and sinker. After all, the chief organizer, Donna Dees-Thomases, who was described by Time magazine as a housewife and mother of two children from New Jersey, signed her letter on their web page, as "Just One of a Million." It wasn't until a commentary appeared in the Wall Street Journal by Lisa Schiffren that Ms. Dees-Thomases was exposed for what she was: a very clever member of the vast left-wing Clinton conspiracy.

Dees-Thomases is not only the sister-in-law of Susan Thomases, Hillary Clinton's closest friend, confidant, and political advisor, but she was also a very well-connected public relations expert, who had worked for a United States Senator, for Dan Rather, and was on leave from David Letterman at the time of the march. She cleverly used her contacts and political friends to turn the MMM into a media spectacular. The day of the march, she and 1,000 of her friends and organizers visited with Bill and Hillary at the White House prior to the event.

The actual march fell way short of the million Moms expected, even though the March organizers got city officials in Richmond, Virginia to pay for bus transportation. The announcement read:

A CARAVAN of buses will leave from Richmond at 7 a.m., at the Arthur Ashe Center, 3001 N. Boulevard, to transport persons interested in attending the million mom march in Washington, D.C. on Sunday the 14th of May, and return approximately at 6 p.m. The bus ride is free. To reserve a seat or for more details, call Teresa Dayrit, (804) 358-4646, or contact her by e-mail at: richmondmmm@mediaone.net

The Richmond Times Dispatch of May 15 affirmed that the city of Richmond paid for eight buses to take gun-control advocates to the Million Mom March City, costing taxpayers approximately $6,000. Some of these women, when asked why they went, answered, It was a free trip to D.C., why not?

Many of the Moms left the march early to go the nearest Northern Virginia shopping mall. At Pentagon City mall, one of the marchers identified by her Million Mom March t-shirt, said, "Sure, I took one of the buses here. I've never been to Washington. It was a good chance to see the monuments and do a little shopping. It was something different to do on Mother's Day."

Additional allegations have surfaced that Northwest Airlines sold cut-rate round-trip tickets from the West Coast to the March. Senator Diane Feinstein's (D-CA) husband is affiliated with Northwest, and her office purportedly publicized the ticket availability.

Schoolteachers and administrators also enticed their students to attend. Maryland School officials admitted that the PTA fliers sent home with students endorsed the Million Mom March, and students who attended the march were allowed to count that time towards the graduation requirement of 75 hours of student service learning.

The march also had its share of victims; people who had suffered as a result of the criminal use of firearms or gun accidents. Many stories were poignant and heartbreaking. One victim was Barbara Lipscomb, a mother and grandmother, whose son, LePierre Clemons, was gunned down on Martin Luther King Jr's birthday just four months prior. LePierre was another victim of teenage violence in the nations capitol, and his mom told everyone she was going to the MMM to stop the violence.

Yet, 2 months later, on July 14, 2000 Barbara Lipscomb, now known as Barbara Ann Martin, found herself under arrest on a charge of assault with intent to kill. According to the Washington Post, D.C. police say they found three handguns and a TEC-9 submachine gun at her home.

Her arrest resulted from an attack on a 21-year-old man who was shot three times with one of those bullets lodging in his spine. The attack occurred on January 26th, less than two weeks after LePierre's murder. The police commander of the 7th District explained the January 26th shooting as a vigilante antic that went awry this was an innocent man, and now he is paralyzed. It obviously was an act of violence and retribution by a woman who supported and was supported by the MMM.

Surprisingly, it isn't the only instance of A Million-Mom Marcher getting aggressive. According to the Boulder Weekly of March 30, 2000, Robert Howell, vice-president of the Boulder Chapter of the Bell Campaign, attacked Shariar Ghalam, while Ghalam was exercising his First Amendment rights to speak in favor of gun control at a rally before a speech by Charlton Heston, President of the National Rifle Association. Then, on August 15th another MMM member accosted a gun owner who had a video camera. The cameraman was taping a public organizational meeting of MMM in Fort Collins, CO, when the MMM member hit the camera with a clipboard causing damage to his eye. It seems that there is little respect for the First and Fourth Amendment rights of those who disagree, by the members of the Colorado chapters of the MMM.

The MMM is now showing its true colors. According to several women who attended its first annual convention several weeks ago, the thrust of the MMM this fall is to elect Al Gore. The MMM has become what it was always intended to become: a full-fledged coordinated campaign with the Democratic Party to help elect the Gore-Lieberman ticket. This comment on their web site demonstrates their political focus plainly.

The New York Times reports that the NRA, which is spending millions and millions of dollars to support Governor Bush, is not expected to officially endorse him. The reason: they'll help the Governor more by NOT giving him a formal endorsement.

As a gnon-political action committee they have received tremendous funding from several not-for-profit organizations: They received a million dollars from the Packard Foundation and a staggering five million from the Emma Goldman foundation, and another million dollars anonymously. Their convention raised approximately $35,0000. Although those funds cannot be used for direct contributions to candidates, you can bet they will be used to educate voters about the stands of candidates on the issue of gun control and direct those voters to the appropriate campaigns.

To quote from the report of an attendee at the MMM convention:

All of their media people, lobbyists, speakers, organizers, photographers, are seasoned professionals. They literally have the very best that money can buy. They are stacked with folks who have worked in many, many liberal causes and campaigns and take many years of experience with them to the political arena. The Million Mom March is anything but a grass roots group of angry housewives and mothers, wanting to protect the children.

It has become crystal clear that the MMM is full of rank-and-file members of the liberal wing of the Democratic party, who are being orchestrated by the Democratic National Committee, the Gore Campaign, and all the Clinton advisors. It was never a small group of Moms around a kitchen table, but a small group of political and public relations professionals, who are taking the gun control agenda to a new and higher level - a level designed to help anti-gun Democrats keep control of the White House and retake control of the Congress.

Tanya K. Metaksa is the former executive director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action. She is the author of Safe, Not Sorry, a self-protection manual, published in 1997. She has appeared on numerous talk and interview shows such as "Crossfire," the "Today" show, "Nightline," "This Week with David Brinkley" and the "McNeil-Lehrer Hour," among others.

16 posted on 11/27/2001 11:00:52 AM PST by SirFishalot
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They must be real desperate for publicity and funds in that they would take part in a fair debate. In the good old days, they never allowed this to happen and stayed away from any debating.

With the media on their side, they had no reason to debate.

18 posted on 11/27/2001 11:33:06 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: BCR #226
bump
22 posted on 11/27/2001 12:28:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Dan from Michigan
fyi
23 posted on 11/27/2001 12:29:20 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BCR #226
These poor souls are in a desparate race to get their agenda to move forward BEFORE the populace awakens to the fact that they've been lied to by these clymers for over a decade--of course the movement is much OLDER than 10 yrs--but that's the time frame where they've seen their most strident gains since the 1960's. What they're terrified of is that a terrorist will open up in a mall or some other crowded venue and a lawfully armed citizen will shut down the operation with less than one mag of well placed shots! That happens...say buh BYE to gun control! They know it too. In fact, what puzzles me the most is that they all know that this issue cost them the White House this last time and still they persist in this insane course of action. I dunno, I guess it must be genetics or somethin.' Salmon gotta swim upstream, New Yorkers gotta elect liberals and gun haters gotta push their agenda!
25 posted on 11/27/2001 1:22:05 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: BCR #226
So, did any Freeper get in the debate?

Any blow-by-blow reports?

28 posted on 11/29/2001 4:51:44 PM PST by Frohickey
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