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Smallpox vaccine uses fetal cell line: Some Americans may refuse shot, worsening potential outbreak
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Sunday, November 18, 2001 | By Jon Dougherty

Posted on 11/18/2001 3:17:00 AM PST by JohnHuang2

WND Exclusive
BIOLOGICAL WAR-FEAR
Smallpox vaccine uses
fetal cell line

Some Americans may refuse shot, worsening potential outbreak


By Jon Dougherty
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

A company that would use a stem-cell line from an aborted fetus to manufacture a new smallpox vaccine is one of only a few firms being considered for a major new government contract despite concerns that the use of such tissues could lead many people to refuse the shots, thereby worsening any outbreak.

The company, Acambis PLC of England, in partnership with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, has already been contracted by the federal government to make 40 million doses of the vaccine.

According to the Washington Post, that contract – signed last year – is set to increase to 54 million doses. But, as a part of a plan being formulated by the Department of Health and Human Services, the number could rise by as much as 250 million doses under new requirements to manufacture enough vaccine for every man, woman and child in the country.

Three other companies besides Acambis are being considered for the new vaccine contract, the Post reported.

The department announced earlier this month that the agency is soliciting bids for the manufacture of a new smallpox vaccine. The current stockpile, at just 15 million doses, is far from adequate should terrorists release new strains of the disease in public, HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson said.

Officials have voiced new concerns over intentional smallpox outbreaks in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks and the outbreak of anthrax at various locations along the East Coast.

Meanwhile, health officials with the Food and Drug Administration say the method of manufacturing the old vaccine, called Dryvax, which was made by Wyeth using calf skin, is "no longer considered optimal." Instead, the agency says the new smallpox vaccine "will be prepared in MRC-5 cells" – a line of aborted fetal cells dating back to 1966 – because that method is more efficient.

"The MRC-5 line was developed … from lung tissue taken from a 14-week fetus aborted for psychiatric reasons from a 27-year-old physically healthy woman," said a description of the cell tissue by the Coriell Institute for Medical Research at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, where the line is maintained. The institute further describes it as "normal human fetal lung fibroblast."

The new manufacturing method has concerned some pro-life groups, who argue that the use of aborted fetal tissue could cause pro-life supporters to refuse it, making any outbreak worse in terms of duration and mortality.

"If enough people refuse the vaccine, we may be faced with serious epidemic problems," said Debi Vinnege, executive director of Children of God For Life, an organization that monitors the use of aborted fetal tissue in the manufacture of vaccines.

"There is no reason to endanger the lives of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Americans when perfectly acceptable alternative methods may be used to cultivate the smallpox vaccine," she told WorldNetDaily.

Lenore Gelb, a spokeswoman for the FDA, said the use of the stem-cell line for vaccine production was not new, adding that it was not up to her agency to decide who should and should not receive the vaccine.

"The FDA doesn't have that role," she said.

Asked if she was concerned about a prolonged outbreak due to the refusal by some to take the vaccine, she said, "FDA approves a vaccine based on the 'safety and effective' [criteria]." She said "recommendations for who should get a vaccine" were up to the CDC.

Smallpox 'easily transmitted'

Vaccinations to prevent smallpox have not been required in the United States since 1972, says HHS, because it was largely eliminated as a threat in the United States.

Caused by a virus known as Variola major, smallpox "is considered one of the most dangerous potential biological weapons because it is easily transmitted from person to person and because few people carry full immunity to the virus," according to department documentation.

Although a worldwide immunization program eradicated the smallpox disease in 1977, small quantities of the smallpox virus still exist in two secure facilities in the United States and Russia, the government said.

"However, it is possible that unrecognized stores of smallpox virus exist elsewhere in the world," said an HHS assessment.

"Smallpox vaccine has proven to be highly effective in preventing infection. In unvaccinated people exposed to smallpox, the vaccine can lessen the severity of, or even prevent, illness if given within four days after exposure," said Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, a division of the HHS, in testimony to the Senate Appropriations Committee Nov. 2.

Nevertheless, there is obvious concern among experts that terrorist entities – as they have with anthrax – could eventually reintroduce smallpox into U.S. society. If that happens, some public health experts say extreme measures would be needed to combat the threat.

One such plan is already in the works. Last month, all 50 state governors were sent a copy of a proposal that, if passed into law, would grant each of them new authority to act in the event of a health emergency like a smallpox outbreak.

According to the report, the measure would allow governors – upon the declaration of a health emergency – to invoke the authority to order roads and airports closed, to quarantine entire cities, and to move people to holding facilities like sports stadiums, if need be, to protect the rest of the public from becoming infected.

"In tough times, you have to make tough decisions," Paul Jacobsen, assistant commissioner for the Massachusetts Department of Public Health, told the Boston Herald Monday.

One of those "extreme measures" could be compulsory vaccination, some worry. Under the proposal, even those who philosophically disagree with the ingredients of the vaccine may, under extreme measures, be vaccinated against their will for the good of an entire community.

Nevertheless, April Bell, a spokeswoman for the CDC, told WorldNetDaily that the United States does not currently have a mandatory vaccination requirement. Also, she said that in the event of widespread infection, universal vaccination may not even be necessary.

Under the epidemiological concept of "herd immunity," Bell said, "you would vaccinate around the case. If some people refused to be vaccinated, you vaccinate those they were in contact with," thereby isolating the spread of the disease.

"That's how smallpox was eradicated in the first place," she said, adding that smallpox carries a relatively low – 30 percent – mortality rate.

Bell said the CDC had no position on the state emergency health powers legislation. However, according to Lawrence O. Gostin, director of the Center for Law and the Public's Health at Johns Hopkins and Georgetown Universities, the author of the measure, the "act ensures a strong, effective and timely response to public health emergencies … without unduly interfering" with civil rights and liberties.

"Emergency health threats, including those caused by bioterrorism and epidemics, require the exercise of extraordinary government functions," he wrote in a preamble introduction to his 40-page "model" bill.

The bill was drafted in collaboration with the National Governor's Association, National Conference of State Legislatures, National Association of Attorneys General and the National Association of City and County Health Officers.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionlist; acambis; acambisplc; cdc; fetaltissue; michaeldobbs; nuke; smallpox; smallpoxvaccine; stemcells; vaccine
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21 posted on 11/18/2001 3:29:23 PM PST by ICU812
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To: JohnHuang2
Notice that they don't say that the old smallpox vaccine is ineffective. They say that the 'method of manufacture' is 'less than optimal.' In other words, the old vaccine works fine, but for some reason they've decided there's a 'better' way to manufacture it.

A way that forces Christians to choose between compromising their moral principles -- and death.

May I point out that the stem-cell manufactured vaccine is produced by a foreign company. I find that to be 'less than optimal.'

22 posted on 11/18/2001 3:38:48 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: JohnHuang2; CheneyChick; vikingchick; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; Victoria Delsoul...
A company that would use a stem-cell line from an aborted fetus to manufacture a new smallpox vaccine is one of only a few firms being considered for a major new government contract despite concerns that the use of such tissues could lead many people to refuse the shots, thereby worsening any outbreak...

The new manufacturing method has concerned some pro-life groups, who argue that the use of aborted fetal tissue could cause pro-life supporters to refuse it, making any outbreak worse in terms of duration and mortality.

I'd like to see the names of the paper-pushers who think this is in any way an intelligent idea.

I'd like to see their names on unemployment checks.


23 posted on 11/18/2001 3:42:44 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
LOL...Agreed with that. Bump
24 posted on 11/18/2001 3:48:09 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: JohnHuang2
Is this for real, people? Or is it hype? Is it really true that chickenpox, hepatitis, and rubella vaccines are derived from fetal cells or is it scare tactics by the anti-vaccine crowd?

If any vaccines are truly derived from fetal cells, there is no way I could take them in good conscience, nor would some members of my family and we aren't all that religious.

I will have to check out other sources for this info. It is hard to believe that Bush would approve vaccines derived from fetal cells. I'm not real sold on transplants from cadavers, either, but I could cave on that matter. Not fetal cells though.

25 posted on 11/18/2001 3:50:41 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska
If any vaccines are truly derived from fetal cells, there is no way I could take them in good conscience, nor would some members of my family and we aren't all that religious.

Then I hope nobody in your family or friends has ever been vaccinated for chickenpox, hepatitis, or rubella; it's true.

26 posted on 11/18/2001 3:52:31 PM PST by Howlin
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To: not-an-ostrich
I predicte only a handful would refuse the shot if there was a smallpox outbreak.

Agreed. It reminds me of so many folks I know who say they would never resort to cannabilism if they were in the same straits as those soccer players in the book Alive!.

I'm sure those men thought that way at one point, too.

27 posted on 11/18/2001 4:00:47 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: JohnHuang2
Will someone please explain to me how, if the shot works for those who take it, my NOT taking the shot threatens most of the population (those who have taken the shot)?

I do not believe the shot in its current formulation will work adequately.

I have heard doctors give statistics from the past stating that many who received innoculations actually GOT the disease BECAUSE they took the shot and BECAME A THREAT to those who did not take the shot.

For info on vaccination from a physician using literature and statistics largely from CDC, FDA, and AMA Osteomed.com You may also look for Dr. Tenpenny to be interviewed somewhere on radio. TV propagandists are not likely to let her anywhere near a microphone because she is spectacular.

28 posted on 11/18/2001 4:00:47 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Zorobabel
I'm sure that if there were a serious outbreak of smallpox, anyone who refused vaccination would be forcibly vaccinated.

I doubt it. My guns have better range than their needles.
29 posted on 11/18/2001 4:04:33 PM PST by Arthalion
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To: Howlin
I wasn't vaccinated for those things (I don't think as I'm too old - I had all the vaccinations available in my time including polio) but I'm sure the younger members of my family were because we always have followed the recommendations of pediatricians and all the kids have been taken to pediatricians regularly. If true, that is terrible! If it has already been done and we had no knowledge of the source of the materials in the vaccines, I do not believe we would be held accountable. But knowlingly taking such a vaccine with full knowledge and consent is an entirely different matter! Even if it was done in ignorance, it still is very serious business in my book!

I'll have to look for more sources for this claim (not today and not on Art Bell ;-)); I don't know how reliable WND is scientifically; they do have a definite agenda, much of which I agree with. Some people use agendas for subagendas, if you know what I mean.

30 posted on 11/18/2001 4:04:46 PM PST by Aliska
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To: MarkWar
It doesn't make any difference to me whether they were aborted or whether they were deliberately created. It would be off limits to me. Incidentally I would think it would be off limits to ALL practicing Catholics.

If push comes to shove, I am sure the Catholic bishops would have something to say about it, so I'll look for their input. I know Rome would not go along with anything like that. I do follow Rome in matters of faith and morals even though I have a few problems with certain things.

31 posted on 11/18/2001 4:08:31 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Sabertooth
I agree. If the goal is to have a vaccine that everyone will take in order to protect the entire population then they've missed the goal - badly. Hopefully, there will be other vaccines available.
32 posted on 11/18/2001 4:10:15 PM PST by patriot5186
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To: Senator Pardek
"I predicte only a handful would refuse the shot if there was a smallpox outbreak."

Agreed. It reminds me of so many folks I know who say they would never resort to cannabilism if they were in the same straits as those soccer players in the book Alive!.

Here's the rub, as I see it... In order for your analogy to hold, the airplane could have only been stocked with human steaks. The cannibalization by the Argentine soccer players of their dead teammatestook place under dire circumstances, beyond anyone's control.

The decision, if it goes forward, to use smallpox vaccines based on stem-cell cultures is totally unnecessary. Vaccines based on the cowpox virus (vaccinia) which provide resistance and immunity to smallpox (variola) go back to the early 1800s. All of us over 29 who've been vaccinated were vaccinated without stem-cell cultures being necessary.

If even a relatively small number (I think it would be larger) would refuse the vaccine, why not use one of the many non-controversial methods?

For that matter, why not use one of the many non-fetal stem cell cultures available?

What's the real agenda here?

This is a strong-arm ploy by the body-bank fans to use a national emergency to force their science on those who hold moral objections against it.


33 posted on 11/18/2001 4:22:31 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Arthalion
All you "ethical" gunslingers out there. If your children were exposed to smallpox, would you still hold off the government with your peashooters even knowing they would either die, or suffer and wind up horribly disfigured for life?
34 posted on 11/18/2001 4:43:47 PM PST by Zorobabel
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To: JohnHuang2
This is bogus. Even WND can get carried away. It's been floating around the internet for while.

A vaccine is a weakened form of the disease. This is what is injected to the person. When injected with the milder or weaker form of the disease, the body goes through a fire drill to fight it off. Your body figures out what the right anti-bodies are and fights off the weaker form of the disease. Truly fetal parts don't carry small pox. In fact, babies in particular have immature immune systems and hence the concern to mature the immune system against diseases through vaccinations. Outside of genetic problems or something from the mother a baby doesn't carry diseases for vaccinations.

Maybe I should explain it this way. If the mother has aids it's very probable that the baby may get this. However is the mother doesn't have aids and not infected with a needle or saliva, the baby doesn't naturally carry aids. Nor does it natrually carry small pox.

Who ever dreamt this nonsense up is taking advantage of peoples lack of knowledge on what vaccines are and how they work. Instead they want to repulse you and scare you into avoiding the proper vaccine so you'll GET SMALL POX!

35 posted on 11/18/2001 5:02:57 PM PST by nmh
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To: Zadokite
Where are these other lists you bumped to? Thanks
36 posted on 11/18/2001 5:16:50 PM PST by tutstar
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To: JohnHuang2
Lenore Gelb, a spokeswoman for the FDA, said the use of the stem-cell line for vaccine production was not new

The chicken pox vaccine and others were developed using tissue from aborted babies.

37 posted on 11/18/2001 5:42:32 PM PST by tutstar
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To: Zorobabel
I'm sure that if there were a serious outbreak of smallpox, anyone who refused vaccination would be forcibly vaccinated.

Our children already ARE forcibly vaccinated. Most sheeple in this country think that they MUST send their children to publik skool, and in order to attend, they MUST be vaccinated. I was vaccinated for smallpox, etc., I HAD to be to attend school, as was every other child. If they decide to make a vaccine for smallpox using fetal cells, they will force the children again, and the sheeple will follow.

38 posted on 11/18/2001 5:54:31 PM PST by realwoman
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To: Aliska
Vaccines Made from Aborted Babies

The site also has information on alternative vaccines for several diseases.

39 posted on 11/18/2001 6:01:19 PM PST by gieriscm
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To: realwoman
I agree most people will follow. However I don't think they'll use the vacine unless there is a serious, really serious outbreak. And those who object about fetal cells etc. had better think twice, because they will be forced, if there is martial law declared. And even if not, would any parent refuse the vacination for his or her children if they were exposed?
40 posted on 11/18/2001 6:02:49 PM PST by Zorobabel
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