Posted on 11/18/2001 3:17:00 AM PST by JohnHuang2
A way that forces Christians to choose between compromising their moral principles -- and death.
May I point out that the stem-cell manufactured vaccine is produced by a foreign company. I find that to be 'less than optimal.'
The new manufacturing method has concerned some pro-life groups, who argue that the use of aborted fetal tissue could cause pro-life supporters to refuse it, making any outbreak worse in terms of duration and mortality.
I'd like to see the names of the paper-pushers who think this is in any way an intelligent idea.
I'd like to see their names on unemployment checks.
If any vaccines are truly derived from fetal cells, there is no way I could take them in good conscience, nor would some members of my family and we aren't all that religious.
I will have to check out other sources for this info. It is hard to believe that Bush would approve vaccines derived from fetal cells. I'm not real sold on transplants from cadavers, either, but I could cave on that matter. Not fetal cells though.
Then I hope nobody in your family or friends has ever been vaccinated for chickenpox, hepatitis, or rubella; it's true.
Agreed. It reminds me of so many folks I know who say they would never resort to cannabilism if they were in the same straits as those soccer players in the book Alive!.
I'm sure those men thought that way at one point, too.
I do not believe the shot in its current formulation will work adequately.
I have heard doctors give statistics from the past stating that many who received innoculations actually GOT the disease BECAUSE they took the shot and BECAME A THREAT to those who did not take the shot.
For info on vaccination from a physician using literature and statistics largely from CDC, FDA, and AMA Osteomed.com You may also look for Dr. Tenpenny to be interviewed somewhere on radio. TV propagandists are not likely to let her anywhere near a microphone because she is spectacular.
I'll have to look for more sources for this claim (not today and not on Art Bell ;-)); I don't know how reliable WND is scientifically; they do have a definite agenda, much of which I agree with. Some people use agendas for subagendas, if you know what I mean.
If push comes to shove, I am sure the Catholic bishops would have something to say about it, so I'll look for their input. I know Rome would not go along with anything like that. I do follow Rome in matters of faith and morals even though I have a few problems with certain things.
Agreed. It reminds me of so many folks I know who say they would never resort to cannabilism if they were in the same straits as those soccer players in the book Alive!.
Here's the rub, as I see it... In order for your analogy to hold, the airplane could have only been stocked with human steaks. The cannibalization by the Argentine soccer players of their dead teammatestook place under dire circumstances, beyond anyone's control.
The decision, if it goes forward, to use smallpox vaccines based on stem-cell cultures is totally unnecessary. Vaccines based on the cowpox virus (vaccinia) which provide resistance and immunity to smallpox (variola) go back to the early 1800s. All of us over 29 who've been vaccinated were vaccinated without stem-cell cultures being necessary.
If even a relatively small number (I think it would be larger) would refuse the vaccine, why not use one of the many non-controversial methods?
For that matter, why not use one of the many non-fetal stem cell cultures available?
What's the real agenda here?
This is a strong-arm ploy by the body-bank fans to use a national emergency to force their science on those who hold moral objections against it.
A vaccine is a weakened form of the disease. This is what is injected to the person. When injected with the milder or weaker form of the disease, the body goes through a fire drill to fight it off. Your body figures out what the right anti-bodies are and fights off the weaker form of the disease. Truly fetal parts don't carry small pox. In fact, babies in particular have immature immune systems and hence the concern to mature the immune system against diseases through vaccinations. Outside of genetic problems or something from the mother a baby doesn't carry diseases for vaccinations.
Maybe I should explain it this way. If the mother has aids it's very probable that the baby may get this. However is the mother doesn't have aids and not infected with a needle or saliva, the baby doesn't naturally carry aids. Nor does it natrually carry small pox.
Who ever dreamt this nonsense up is taking advantage of peoples lack of knowledge on what vaccines are and how they work. Instead they want to repulse you and scare you into avoiding the proper vaccine so you'll GET SMALL POX!
The chicken pox vaccine and others were developed using tissue from aborted babies.
Our children already ARE forcibly vaccinated. Most sheeple in this country think that they MUST send their children to publik skool, and in order to attend, they MUST be vaccinated. I was vaccinated for smallpox, etc., I HAD to be to attend school, as was every other child. If they decide to make a vaccine for smallpox using fetal cells, they will force the children again, and the sheeple will follow.
The site also has information on alternative vaccines for several diseases.
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