[smorgle]

For what it's worth

[jlogajan]

"I will never believe it was an accident. They'll never convince me of that." -- 45-year-old bus mechanic

But the cosmotologist down the street thinks it was metal fatigue due to improperly cycled annealing.

[Procyon]

Swamp gas.

[paul544]

Why does every incident that takes place draw the attention of freaks? If you follow the logic of some people, there has never been an accident, ever! What are they suggesting this time? A UFO? A shootdown? Bigfoot?

[Cagey]

When Eugene Sanfilippo speaks, America listens.

[spycatcher]

Too many people saw the thing explode. The tail falling off (latest bogus story) doesn't cause an explosion.

But then again hundreds of eyewitnesses saw TWA 800 get shot down by a streaking missile -- and the FBI acted like they were all delusional.

[discostu]

I'm not seeing where they "saw" anything that couldn't have been mechanical failure. Gill apparently heard an explosion, but explosions CAN be caused by mechanical failure. We don't have anything here from anyone that apparently saw a begin to end version of the crash, that means there's nobody to say what the order of events were.

[Revolting cat!]

I say let's settle this once and for all by asking the ultimate expert: the tin foil salesman!

[Wolfie]

My money's on one of those gremlins, like in the classic Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner.

[fourdeuce82d]

"My first impression was that they'd hit us with a nuclear bomb. I figured it was just like the World Trade Center. And I watched that burn from the (Jamaica) bay."

What's interesting here is not what this guy said- after all, he's talking off the top of his head, trying to get his thoughts together, fine. But what about the reporter?

"My first impression was that they'd hit us with a nuclear bomb. I figured it was just like the World Trade Center.

Why is this line here? He thinks this was a nuclear strike, just like the WTC???? What possible sense does this make? Miles away from where Eugene Sanfilippo stood, at the edge of a new Ground Zero, a mayor, a president's spokesman and a slew of FAA officials were urging us to think "accident." But they were not standing in Rockaway Beach.

Nor were they standing in Ulan Bator, nor sitting in Fiji, nor reclining in Ultima Thule- so Ph^qing what? What does that have to do with the veracity of their statements?

To look into Eugene Sanfilippo's eyes was to see there were no coincidences.

Why does the look in ES eyes, a guy who apparently thinks the WTC was the result of a nuclear strike, have anything to do with whether or not this was a conincidence?

This may well have been a terrorist strike- I have no idea. But this kind of stuff makes me want to gouge my eyes out of my head and run naked, screaming, down the street. Idiots. And what's worse, idiots who, to the best of my knowledge, are capable of procreating. Apes.

[Michael2001]

Was this an accident? I really don't know. What I do know is that the government wants us to believe that it is an accident. I will be very skeptical of whatever they say.

[staffwriter]

Eyewitness accounts are the best evidence there is.

Ask any lawyer, judge, or prosecutor.

Eyewitness accounts are used every day in criminal and civil trials.

The government even has a witness protection program.

Loose nuts sink ships.

[Map Kernow]

Actually, I've now been convinced by all the reasonable, anti-kook crowd here that eyewitnesses only think they saw terrorists fly two planes into the Twin Towers September 11. What they really saw was a mechanical failure of the AA 767 turbojets to fly directly through the 80th floor of the Towers through the air-conditioning ducts. Probably a design flaw, or maybe one of the engines failed, or it could have been a really high-flying pigeon that got stuck in the vertical stabilizer.

Anyway, what does it matter? The government's handling it and how they conduct the investigation is none of your damn business anyway unless you work for the NTSB.

So...relax, everybody! Go book a flight to Vegas!

[KLT]

I see not one iota of proof, that this was a terrorist attack, and those so called witnesses, offered nothing at all...I expected to hear something of value, but there was nothing...no surprise!

[Fiddlstix]

.......a mayor, a president's spokesman and a slew of FAA officials were urging us to think "accident."

Kool Aid Anyone?

[BradyLS]

We're at war. It was Gremlins. It'll always be Gremlins. 'Ware the Gremlins! :D

[1L]

An explosion is misleading. I saw an explosion when the first tower went down. The explosion, which wasn't big, was about 20 floors down from where the plane went in. My first instant thought was bomb, then I realized the jet fuel seeped down and ignited when hit with oxegen. That's what an explosion is, and saying there was one before the Airbus crashed is misleading. Mechanical failure could have led to a mix of fuel and air; give that a spark and it was an explosion. Of course, crashed planes always explode -- at least when they hit the ground. This just isn't determinative.

[DAnconia55]

For what it's worth

Not much these days...

Much of FR has deteriorated into a pack of dogs who lick up whatever the press or government feeds them.

Pretty much CNN or Fox news in print...

But yeah, I'll believe an eyewitness with weapons experience over the press and the government still. So there's a few of us left..

[lonestar]

I know what I saw. On TV. About a dozen eye-witnesses, each with a different story.

[Red Jones]

The sheeples say that the eyewitnesses didn't see what they saw because the government says so. The US federal government long ago learned to lie and cover up and fabricate. They're merely exercising that ability in this case in service to the war effort; The sheeples here on this thread should wake up.

[mercy]

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