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To: smorgle
Too many people saw the thing explode. The tail falling off (latest bogus story) doesn't cause an explosion.

But then again hundreds of eyewitnesses saw TWA 800 get shot down by a streaking missile -- and the FBI acted like they were all delusional.

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:54 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
But then again hundreds of eyewitnesses saw TWA 800 get shot down by a streaking missile -- and the FBI acted like they were all delusional.

Or they didn't talk to them at all.

15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:57 PM PST by OK
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To: spycatcher
Too many people saw the thing explode. The tail falling off (latest bogus story) doesn't cause an explosion. But then again hundreds of eyewitnesses saw TWA 800 get shot down by a streaking missile -- and the FBI acted like they were all delusional.

I see a VERY big difference. A streaking missle across a dark/dusk sky is easy to see. Very easy. All I see concerning this event is hysterical New Yorkers all telling different stories, talking about being attacked by nukes and becomming avaiation experts over night. I doubt this happened the way most "eyewitnesses" think. Its not like the Trade Center video where you can rewind and rewind, to see it again.

Accidents happened before 9/11, and they will continue. Heck, one probably happened on 11/12!

16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:57 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: spycatcher
The tail falling off (latest bogus story) doesn't cause an explosion.

Not necessarily. Depends on what stuff is in the tail and what it connects to. You can't forget the hydraulics and electronics that are in planes, and what happens to them when parts get ripped off the plane is usually bad. For example the infamous DC10 engine falling off incident of the late '70s. The DC10 was a magnificent plane and could survive the loss of 2 out of 3 engines (actually part of the training for that plane was that if a wing engine cacked to power down the surviving wing engine, run off of the tail engine which would be easier to steer with because it was centered horizontally on the plane which wing engines aren't). Problem was "loss" didn't include "fall off". When the fateful engine actually fell off the plane it ripped huge chunks of the hydraulics and electronics out with it (they're just hoses and wires after all, nothing super special about them), this yanked out enough of the control system that none of the surfaces were responsive, thus the plane became an unguided missile (with uneven thrust because an engine had just fallen off).

Now you're going to say that's not an explosion, and you're right. But, that's also just a wing engine. A lot of important electronic hubs are in the tail, because the tail is generally the safest part of an aircraft, it makes sense to put stuff in there. One of the things generally in the tail is the FDR, the FDR connects to probes and sensors all over the plane, it is literally wired up to everything. What happens when you yank that sucker out with the same kind of force that crippled the DC10 20+ years ago? Power surges are a safe bet. Power surges have a tendency to lead to sparks. Sparks in fuel chambers are very bad.

Now, I'm not saying that IS the answer. Not really even saying it could be the answer. What I am saying is that when you start yanking parts off of planes all kinds of stuff can happen (remember, planes are designed around the idea of surviving system failure, not violent system removal, there's a built in assumption that by the time parts are falling off the plane is already SOL), and you quite simply cannot say without equivocation that explosions aren't on that list of possible repercussions.

24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:59 PM PST by discostu
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To: spycatcher
Eyewitness accounts can be way off the beam, especially in a case like this where many people on the scene are already keyed up and frightened. Gill interests me for two reasons. One, he has military experience. Two, he doesn't get carried away and say something like 'Only a left handed widget could cause an explosion like that.' Obviously he's shook up but part of that could be from hearing news stories that contradict what he and his wife saw and heard--or thought they did. I don't discount him just because he pops up in a human interest article with other people spouting opinions. It's interesting, a number of witnesses describe seeing or hearing an explosion while others do not. Wonder how or whether that'll get resolved.
27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:13 PM PST by smorgle
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To: spycatcher
Exactly, all the witnesses of flight 800 were not credible.

This country has been at war for a long time now, however someone forgot to tell the American people!

Maybe for a time there it was the perfect war, where the public is completely oblivious, however we all know we were infiltrated and sold out.

The Genie is out of the bottle now, and the government can't lie about it or cover it up anymore!
33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:15 PM PST by Soul Citizen
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To: spycatcher
Anyone who believes an eyewitness must have their tinfoil hat on. Eyewitnesses are unreliable, everybody knows that. The FBI says it was an accident. That settles it. Now, back to the regular scheduled propaganda.
67 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:55 PM PST by Osinski
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To: spycatcher
" . . . hundreds of eyewitnesses saw TWA 800 get shot down by a streaking missile --."

Not according to our government AND THIS.

Our country is at war and inciting suspicion, fear and hatred of our government aids, abetts and gives comfort to our enemies.

98 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:01 PM PST by Asmodeus
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To: spycatcher
-- and the FBI acted like they

That would be this fbi?

http://www.christianpatriot.com/clinton_legacy.htm

Nukem

101 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:03 PM PST by Alas
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To: spycatcher
And had the CIA concoct a cartoon, and then a corrected cartoon which the lamestream media nursed down the waiting sheeple's throats.

Homer say spontaneous center fuel tank explosion. MMMMmmm good.

132 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:53 PM PST by Silvertip
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