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CONYERS CALLS FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES HEARINGS
Drudge ^ | 11/14/01 | Mark Benjamin of www.insider.com

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:11 PM PST by Elkiejg

WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 (UPI) -- House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member John Conyers, D-Mich., said Wednesday a decision by President George W. Bush that terrorist suspects might face a military tribunal adds to questions about civil liberties.

In a Nov. 14 letter to Committee Chairman Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., Conyers called for hearings on civil liberties, including an administration plan to monitor some defendants' communication with their lawyers, and the status of suspects detained in the government's investigations of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Conyers said Bush's Tuesday decision to establish military tribunals run by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld only adds to his concern.

"Indeed, the very purpose of the directive appears to be to skirt the usual constitutional and criminal justice rules that are the hallmark of our democratic form of government."

While Sensenbrenner did not return calls seeking comment, Conyers' request comes one day after United Press International reported that Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., might soon hold hearings on the new government policy on monitoring communication between defense attorneys and their clients, and the status of what lawmakers said could be 1,000 people detained by the government. Some of those detainees have reportedly been released.

Leahy twice sent letters to Attorney General John Ashcroft on the issues on Oct. 31 and Nov. 9.

"We also have received no cooperation from the Justice Department in our effort to obtain information regarding the 1,000 plus immigrants who have been detained in connection with the terrorism investigation, as reflected in a letter that several Democratic Members transmitted to the attorney general on Oct. 31, 2001," Conyers wrote to Sensenbrenner Wednesday. "We would be remiss in our duties, however, if we did not also oversee the extent to which the Department may be abusing its authority and wrongfully targeting innocent Americans."


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To: Marobe
not being allowed due process ...the creation of an illegal Military tribunal...

Just FYI, use of the uniformed code of military justice allows for due process, it is legal, and does not automatically imply guilt and sentencing. It just applies the laws of uniformed soldiers to these terrorist soldiers, in compliance with internationally agreed conventions, and avoids the circus of Johnny Cochroach lawyers that would surround criminal justice proceedings. Defendents are still entitled to their own lawyers if they desire, and proceedings are very similar, again without the media circus, to criminal trials. The case is usually decided by a panel of judges instead of an easily manipulated jury of welfare recipients, soccer moms, and retirees that have no idea whether or not to believe DNA evidence.

21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:28 PM PST by Magnum44
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To: BobWNY
Ping!
23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:28 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Elkiejg
Conyers is concerned about Civil Liberties? Oh come *on* now... That is a joke.
24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: rdb3
You're right. Illegal aliens don't enjoy constitutional rights.

Problem is, although you are morally and ethically correct, you are legally wrong. If anyone is in USA, they get constitutional guarantees, citizen or not: USSC long tme ago.

However, two can play same game. Rights under military tribunal are severely restricted. This also does not just apply to citizens or non citizens, but to all

If you can't get them one way, do it the other way!

25 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: Elkiejg
*OH* He's concerned about Civil Liberties for non-citizens. NOW it makes sense!

/sarcasm

26 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Elkiejg
If Conyers is for something, I'm against it.

And vice-versa.

27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Terriergal
As is typical, Conyers is sniffing around, looking for money, like the rest of the poverty pimps.
28 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:30 PM PST by evolved_rage
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To: Elkiejg
Where were the civil liberties of the 5,000 plus who died needlessly? John Conyers, you're despicable!
29 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:30 PM PST by KLT
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To: Elkiejg
Conyers said Bush's Tuesday decision to establish military tribunals run by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld only adds to his concern.

Again, we have to thank that pig Jeffords for turning the Senate over to the Rats, putting them in charge of committees and bringing their own special brand of traitorous idiocy to the forefront.

31 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:34 PM PST by swampfox98
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To: Elkiejg
AH!!!! NOW we TRUELY see where CONYER's TRUE "LOYALTIES" now lie DON"T we folks???? HINT to ANY potential Republicn foe of Conyer's in his NEXT election.... so him making this statement THEN SHOW THE TWO PLANES CRASHING INTO THE WTC!!!!
32 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:35 PM PST by Roger_W_Isom
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To: Elkiejg
We are at war! This is a part of war! Usama and his merry band of little men declared war on us September 11, 2001, to try any POW's in a civilian court is contrary to the rules of war!
33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:35 PM PST by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: Elkiejg
WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 (UPI) -- House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member John Conyers, D-Mich., said Wednesday a decision by President George W. Bush that terrorist suspects might face a military tribunal adds to questions about civil liberties.

If anything, this order is smoking the usual people out. Dascle already said he is "concerned" (as to his other stock response, where he says he is "troubled").

34 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:36 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Terriergal
Where ELSE could Conyer's GET HIS "VOTES" ROFL:-))))
35 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:36 PM PST by Roger_W_Isom
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To: Roger_W_Isom
Perhaps Osama should get a "fair" trial, like O.J.
36 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:37 PM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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To: Elkiejg
Before 9/11 I thought Conyers was a fool. Now I believe he is in the opponents' camp.
37 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:37 PM PST by NetValue
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To: Magnum44
Peolple have this knee jerk reaction that anything "military" is by definition unfair. These creeps will be getting a trial of fairness and due process far in excess of what they deserve, not to mention far better than the summary execution or torture that would be delivered to American POW's were the situation reversed. They are fortunate that we putting forth the effort to capture and try them, for this is far better treatment than they give even their own followers.
38 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:38 PM PST by WALLACE212
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To: Elkiejg
I didn't notice him (or almost anyone else) calling for hearings before the "Patriot" act was passed. In fact, I have heard that most if not all members of congress were not given a copy of the law before it was called for a vote.

A law is passed that effectively repeals the fourth amendment with only three dissenting votes. And this jerk is crowing about "rights" for non-citizens?

39 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:39 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: WALLACE212
Welcome to the PC America.
40 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:39 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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