GOP Was the Real Victim in Fla. Vote

LA Times ^ | 11/12/01 | John R. Lott Jr. and James K. Glassman

[WxMan2000]

But if spoiled ballots do indicate disenfranchisement, then the new data show that, by a dramatic margin, the group most victimized in the Florida voting was African American Republicans.

[KC_Conspirator]

I can explain this away easy. Not only do democrats commit vote fraud by fabricating new votes for their candidate, but more importantly, nullifying a vote your opponent is just as good. democrats in the inner cities do this all the time. All you have to do is punch out another chad. I have no doubt that this is what was done in the 2000 election.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

The new findings show that African American Republicans who voted in Florida were in excess of 50 times more likely than the average African American to have had a ballot declared invalid because it was spoiled.

These results take into account a wide range of factors that influence spoiled-ballot rates, including education, gender, income, age, number of absentee votes, voting-machine type, ballot type and whether votes were counted at the precinct or centrally.

In other words, it is the isolated fact of being a Republican that makes an African American vastly more likely to have his or her ballot declared invalid.

These results are disturbing. They show that, if there was a concerted effort to prevent votes from being counted in Florida, that effort was directed at Republicans, not at African Americans.

Well, surprise, surprise! Do you think AG Bob Butterworth, Kwasi, JJ, Ms. Berry will apologize to Jeb, GW and the GOP? International papers all picked up the USCCR's racist report. The UN/NAACP is still crying racism. This is the biggest recount story of the year, IMHO.

[lowbridge]

it is the isolated fact of being a Republican that makes an African American vastly more likely to have his or her ballot declared invalid.

In addition, we found that the overall rate of spoiled ballots was 14% higher when the county election supervisor was a Democrat, and 31% higher when the supervisor was an African American Democrat.

Yoo hoo, Jesse, where are you? (probably counting your money)

[summer]

Very interesting, RC. Thanks for the flag. (And, I would guess no apology is forthcoming from anyone in this matter!)

[PogySailor]

In addition, we found that the overall rate of spoiled ballots was 14% higher when the county election supervisor was a Democrat, and 31% higher when the supervisor was an African American Democrat.
So, if spoilage should be viewed as disenfranchising African American Democrats, the new figures strongly suggest that Democrats were disenfranchising African American Republicans.

Wow....I never would have imagined seeing this actually reported!

[okie01]

"What I want to know is how this information is available when looking at the ballots and making decisions. I thought we had "secret" ballots in this country."

Race could be inferred by the ethnic composition of the precinct.

Democrat vs Republican could be determined with accuracy by the voting pattern in other races.

In other words, there would be sufficient data available to support the assertions made by Lott and Glassman.

[okie01]

"......a fair article...I am rather surprised."

Don't be. This isn't an LATimes original article. That is, Lott and Glassman aren't LATimes reporters.

Instead, it's a syndicated article, or column, by Lott (a professor at the University of Chicago) and Glassman (a libertarian economist who writes for the WashPost).

And the circumstantial evidence in support of vote tampering by Democrats, to systematically spoil Republican ballots, is statistically overwhelming.

Easily accomplished in punch card precincts by taking a stack of cards and driving a wire through the Gore chad -- which a.) doesn't disturb any existing vote for Gore, b.) creates a vote for Gore when the voter chose not to cast a ballot for President, and c.) nullifies any Bush (or Buchanan) votes by turning them into overvotes.

[okie01]

"How do they seperate Republican ballots from Democrat ballots so they can know these things?"

Easy. The down-ballot voting pattern.

[Penny1]

Wait, this is in the LA Times?

???

What's happening to our leftist media outlets? Not that I'm complaining, mind you, but this is kinda shocking.

I wonder if they're trying to get back all the subscribers that have been jumping ship ever since 9/11...

BTW, does anyone remember how a few weeks ago the media were saying that they didn't want to release the latest recount analysis/data because they didn't want to be divisive? They were trying to imply that the data pointed to a Gore win, without actually saying anything about the data itself....

I think they tried to not come out with this information, to suppress it. I wonder where the pressure came from for them to finally release it anyway....

It'd be hilarious if the libs were pushing for the info to come out anyway, talk about having something blow up in their faces, LOL...

-penny

[My Favorite Headache]

Bump! Everyone must send this article out to everyone they know.

[JulieRNR21]

Very disturbing but not surpeising....the RATs play dirty....they will do everything to win!

Too bad most Americans will never know about this! But I'll email it everywhere I can......suggest we all do that.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

I agree. E-mailing aplenty today.

E-mail MANCOW
E-mail Rush
E-mail Sean Hannity
E-mail Ken Hamblin
E-mail Drudge
E-mail G. Gordon Liddy
E-mail all Reps. at once, or media outlets

[Jean S]

This is a keeper. I'm bookmarking it.

[newzjunkey]

I don't know about FL. In CA, the ballots are (by colour too?) coded by party. It wouldn't be hard to know what the series of ballot serial numbers were that corresponded to GOP registered voters and other parties if the same happens in FL.

Mix in demographic data for precincts and a thorough statistical analysis can reveal the types of information they claim in the article.

[newzjunkey]

See my reply here for one way they could easily separate Dem from GOP (and other) voter ballots.

[newzjunkey]

And yes, I'm talking about the punch-card type ballot.

[gjenkins]

This is the issue/event tat brought me to FR ... Statistical Evidence of Voter Fraud

[okie01]

I recall that particular post from Robert Cook very well. I contributed a separate study, comparing Buchanan's votes to the votes that other Reform Party candidates received in PBC, which seemed to establish that Pat's vote totals didn't seem out of line at all (he was only the third leading vote getter among Reform candidates in the county, and neither of the others ran countywide).

But I believe Cook's study in PBC and JasonC's study of the national vote totals clearly revealed compelling evidence of widespread voter fraud. Committed, no doubt, by the you-know-whos for the benefit of you-know-what.

If Cook's well-reasoned piece brought you to FR, he should get the credit for it.

[Reagan's_Mom]

This is one of the most interesting articles I've read in a year. Forwarding it to EVERYONE I KNOW!!!!!

[KillerWabbit]

wow......a fair article...I am rather surprised.

Surprised is right. Unbelievable is more like it. From the LA Times no less. I want to know why. Given Bush's sky-high poll numbers has concern for bottom line (subscribers, readership) trumped their liberal ideology? Has Bush become acceptable to the left -- was he all along? What's going on here?