Police to accept Mexico-issued IDs

Orange County Register ^ | 8 NOV 01 | JOHN McDONALD

[tomakaze]

SANTA ANA -- Orange County police chiefs met secretly Wednesday and unanimously approved a policy that encourages officers to accept cards issued by the Mexican government as identification for people stopped for minor offenses.

The cards, called "matricula consular," are available to Mexican nationals who are in the United States either legally or illegally. The cards will help illegal immigrants unable to obtain other common identification cards issued in the United States.

[tomakaze]

As a Washington state resident who several years ago while working a short term job in Californica got a nasty, expensive ticket (eventually thrown out after two years) for not having a california drivers lisence even though I had a valid, current Washington State one at the time and had no desire to change my residency and was only there for a couple months.
This is as laughable as accepting Canadian Immigration's endorsement of immigrants.

[Nyralthotep]

Illegal immigrants are often detained, and sometimes deported, when stopped for offenses such as jaywalking or driving through a red light.


I fail to see what is wrong with this policy, after all, they are illeagal immigrants right? All illegals should be deported asap.

[aught-6]

My thoughts exactly.

[Alabama_Wild_Man]

"...available to Mexican nationals who are in the United States either legally or illegally..."
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What is it about a person's Race or Nationality that gives them the 'Right' to break the laws of this Nation....?

[NoCurrentFreeperByThatName]

ping

[tomakaze]

RE:What is it about a person's Race or Nationality that gives them the 'Right' to break the laws of this Nation....?

There are evidently some people who by virtue of "race" (Mexican, Black, whatever) or by virtue of their "hobbies" (Chutney Ferrets, Rug Munchers) are considered governmental "pets", rather than full fledged people, soveriegn individuals, etc.
Alot of times people will self identify themselves as such and choose to be a pet, in order to get the best position at the trough.

[Cicero]

As most Freepers know, Orange County, which used to be a bastion of conservatism, is now a congressional swing district leaning toward the Democrats, mainly because of voting by illegal immigrants. Ask Bob Dornan and Loretta Sanchez.

Presumably this police chief is a Democratic appointee, who has been tasked with ensuring that the Democrats will win the district again in 2002 with the help of illegal motor voters.

[A CA Guy]

Santa Ana's schools are easily filled with 85% illegal aliens. Take that number by $10,000 each to educate and you have a ton of wasted money.

You would all but evacuate Santa Ana if you expelled illegals from the city.
You would also eliminate most of the crime in that area there and in near by areas.

These illegals are NOT HOLY. Why can't we kick them the heck out of the country and make them re-apply legally like all others do?

[bloodmeridian]

Illegal immigrants are often detained, and sometimes deported, when stopped for offenses such as jaywalking or driving through a red light.

Actually they're deported for being ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, you nitwit.

[tomakaze]

RE:mainly because of voting by illegal immigrants

I think folks are underestimating the effect of the guilt ridden weel to do suburban yuppies. (think Bellevue Washington)

[tomakaze]

RE:Why can't we kick them the heck out of the country and make them re-apply legally like all others do?

Like I said... "pets".

[N00dleN0gg1n]

How dependable is the process by which the Mexican government hands out these cards? How hard would it be for an Algerian national who'd just flown in to Mexico to get one? We already know that Middle Easterners are entering the US from Mexico.

This is a national security issue, and these idiot police chiefs are on the wrong side!

[Saundra Duffy]

Deport all illegal aliens - NOW (before it's too late)! For victory & freedom!!!

[Alabama_Wild_Man]

"Pets" ?
May very well be the truth.

But the writer nailed the key phrase, with "Mexican Nationals".
By that single point of fact - these pets are not Citizens of this Nation and, therefore, have NO rights according to the U.S. Constitution.

[tomakaze]

RE:are not Citizens of this Nation and, therefore, have NO rights according to the U.S. Constitution.

Correctamundo!

It's telling that the feds have more regard for the "constituional rights" of groups of people who aren't covered by them, yet regulalry wipe their collected *sses as far as the rights of citizens go. (Waco, Ruby Ridge, no knock warrants, gun confiscation, irs, etc, etc). I guess no amount of brutility is too great as long as it's kept "in the family".

[TLI]

With all due respect to everyone that has posted to this info, I understand everyone's desire to rationally discuss this issue. However, I hope everyone understands my opinion regarding the Orange County Policea El Chieftains Association decision to ignore immigration laws in a BIASED manner (favorable to illegal mexicans) as a TOTAL LOAD OF BU!!SHI+ and should be responded to as such.  For example...

Terry Francke, counsel (lawyer) for the California First Amendment Coalition, (too bad they don't have a California SECOND Amendment Collation) said the association is exempt from state open-meeting laws. He said the group is not a government body, even though it may effectively set public policy.

HUH?

It MUST be something in the water over there, and it was probably dumped back in the `60's.

Soooooo, okay.

I sent them a toasty little email, special thoughts and all, right to the source....   mailto:sac@ocsd.org

Orange County Sheriff Mike Carona said as he left the meeting at the Santa Ana Police Department that he has the authority to implement the policy without action by the Board of Supervisors.

  Our friend, the Sheriff.  He hangs out here..  http://www.ocsd.org/

 

And the Advisory Counsel...

Sheriff’s Advisory Council

President
Ken E. Steelman

First Vice President
Michael Wayne

Second Vice President
David R. White II

Treasurer
Kae A. Ewing

Legal Counsel
Joseph D. Carruth

Just so no one feels left out....  mailto:sac@ocsd.org

[ladyinred]

You hit the nail right on the head. The closer we get to 2002 elections, the more sneaky pre election maneuvers the DemoRats are doing.
It is always about getting them elected, always.

[PatrioticAmerican]

Next, Kalifornia will require merchants to accept foreign currency.

[PRND21]

Santa Ana's schools are easily filled with 85% illegal aliens.

Source?

[TLI]

Back on up there!