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Sir John Keegan is wrong: radical Islam could win
Asia Times ^ | October 12, 2001 | Spengler

Posted on 10/11/2001 7:44:09 PM PDT by aculeus

"In this war of civilizations, the West will prevail," argues the distinguished historian Sir John Keegan, the Defense Editor of the Daily Telegraph, in a commentary on October 8. Why is he so sure? If Sir John were in command on the Western side, I would be inclined to bet on a different outcome.

Sir John references Samuel Huntington's "clash of civilizations" theory and adds:

"Westerners fight face to face, in stand-up battle, and go on until one side or the other gives in. They choose the crudest weapons available, and use them with appalling violence, but observe what, to non-Westerners may well seem curious rules of honour. Orientals, by contrast, shrink from pitched battle, which they often deride as a sort of game, preferring ambush, surprise, treachery and deceit as the best way to overcome an enemy."

Although the nomadic raid lost out to Western resistance over the centuries, Keegan writes, "On September 11, 2001 it returned in an absolutely traditional form. Arabs, appearing suddenly out of empty space like their desert raider ancestors, assaulted the heartlands of Western power, in a terrifying surprise raid and did appalling damage."

Readers who reproached me for using the word "racism" to qualify Washington's orientation toward the Islamic world should read Keegan's essay carefully. Here we have the upright Westerner against the underhanded Oriental. Kipling (who wrote vividly about the sneakiness of the British in the Great Game) would blush.

It's all completely, totally, revoltingly wrong. The West confronts not a throwback to medieval Islam, but a Westernized version of Islam transformed into a totalitarian political ideology. Although it draws upon Islamic sources and overlaps with some strains of Muslim belief, the ideology of Al-Qaeda has greater kinship with Nazism, another synthetic pagan religion, than with traditional Islam.

Like Nazism, it is a deadly threat. Remember that Hitler very nearly won. If Hitler (to cite one among many examples) had not declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor but instead offered himself as a mediator between Washington and Tokyo, would the US have declared war on Germany? And in the absence of US involvement in Europe, would Hitler have lost? Or if Hitler had thrown the British into the sea at Dunkirk rather than holding back his tanks? Or if Hitler had enlisted the Ukrainians and Balts as allies rather than butchering them? Like the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, Al-Qaeda might win, and by the same methods.

Keegan dwells on a strained analogy of tactics and ignores a fundamental difference in objectives. No traditional society destroyed for the pleasure of destruction; at least none of which we have had reports. The Islamic conquerors of the past raided for identifiable goals. They wished to rule new territories and bring new peoples under their sway. Whether greed or missionary zeal drove them on, let historians argue. The West ultimately drove back these incursions and broke the back of Islamic power.

Al-Qaeda wants no territory, no conversions, no loot, no slaves. It wishes to destroy the West and happily will sacrifice millions of Muslim lives in order to do so. Indeed, the mass sacrifice of Muslim lives may lie at the heart of its battle plan. It has more in common with the Dostoyevsky of The Possessed or the Wagner of Die Goetterdaemmerung than with the Muslim conquerors of the Middle Ages.

Evil for its own sake becomes imaginable only when the Christian civilization of the West abandons Christianity and stares into the abyss of its own destruction. Before Dostoyevsky, Ibsen, and Wagner presented the relevant profiles, Western literature had the matter in its pure form, in the character of Mephisto in Goethe's Faust. "I am a part of that part which in the beginning was everything," he tells Faust. "A part of darkness that gave birth to light; the proud light, that now contests Mother Night's old rank and space." Al-Qaeda is the darkness that covets the position of light and wishes only to destroy. "I am the spirit that always negates," Mephisto offers, "and rightly so, because everything that comes to be is worthy of its own destruction." Unlike the Western adherents of Nietzsche, who cried, "God is dead, and everything is permitted!", the Islamist radicals have invented a God who permits everything.

Sir John should read carefully Fouad Ajami's profile "Nowhere man" of terrorist Mohammed Atta in the New York Times of October 7. "In more recent years, younger Egyptians gave up on the place, came to dream of fulfillment - economic, personal, political - in foreign lands. Mohammed Atta, who left for Germany in 1993, was part of that migration, of that rupturing of things on the banks of the Nile. Religion came to Atta unexpectedly, in Hamburg, where he had gone for a graduate degree in urban planning ... The modern world unsettled Atta. He exalted the traditional, but it could no longer give him a home. He drifted in 'infidel' lands but could never be fully at ease. He led an itinerant life. The magnetic power of the American imperium had fallen across his country. He arrived here with a presumption, and a claim. We had intruded into his world; he would shatter the peace of ours. The glamorized world couldn't be fully had; it might as well be humbled and taken down," wrote the professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the School of Advanced International Studies at the Johns Hopkins University.

"It must have been easy work for the recruiters who gave Atta a sense of mission, a way of doing penance for the liberties he had taken in the West, and the material means to live the plotter's life. A hybrid kind has been forged across that seam between the civilization of Islam and the more emancipated culture of the West. Behold the children, the issue, of this encounter as they flail about and rail against the world in no-man's-land," concludes Ajami.

Mohammed Atta, to Ajami's expert eye, is the direct descendant of Dostoyevsky's Raskolnikov, the impoverished student from an Old Believer family adrift in St Petersburg, who kills for the sake of doing evil.

The grand vulnerability of the Western mind is horror. The Nazis understood this and pursued a policy "des Schreckens" (to cause horror) and "Entsetzens" (terror, literally: dislodgement). Horror was not merely an instrument of war in the traditional sense, but a form of Wagnerian theater, or psychological warfare on the grand scale. Hitler's tactical advantage lay in his capacity to be more horrible than his opponents could imagine. The most horrible thing of all is that he well might have succeeded if not for his own megalomaniac propensity to overreach.

America, as Osama bin Laden taunted this week, lost in Vietnam. But it was not military setbacks, but the horrific images of Vietnamese civilians burned by napalm, that lost the war. America's experience in the war is enshrined in popular culture in the film Apocalypse Now, modeled after Joseph Conrad's story, The Heart of Darkness. The Belgian trading company official, Paul Kurtz, sinks into bestiality and dies with these words: "The horror! The horror!" It was a dreadful film, but a clever reference. At the close of World War I, T S Eliot subtitled his epitaph for Western civilization, The Wasteland, with a quote from the Conrad story: "Mr Kurtz, he dead."

From America's moral collapse in the face of the horror of Vietnam, there arose a repudiation of classical Western culture unlike anything seen previously in the English-speaking world. The West nearly threw up its hands in the face of the challenge from the Soviet Union in the late 1970s.

Getting down to tactics, how can Al-Qaeda overcome the West with horror? Let us suppose that some state or state agency over which Al-Qaeda wields influence possesses a weapon of mass destruction, with sufficient potency to cause a very large number of deaths in a Western country. If it deploys that weapon and causes a very large number of casualties, the West may have no choice but to bombard the offending country with nuclear weapons and destroy its capacity to make war. Given that Al-Qaeda has tendrils deep in numerous governments, even a nuclear bombardment of one rogue state might not diminish its capacities. The West would be left with the horrific fact of mass destruction of civilians combined with continued insecurity.

Time is on the side of Al-Qaeda. Sir John's strategic advice is dangerously wrong. He wrote on October 8 that "President Bush in his speech to his nation and to the Western world yesterday, promised a traditional Western response. He warned that there would be 'a relentless accumulation of success'. Relentlessness, as opposed to surprise and sensation, is the Western way of warfare. It is deeply injurious to the Oriental style and rhetoric of war-making."

On the contrary, the West should think of itself as the underdog, fighting against the clock, and seize the tactical initiative. It should act unpredictably, with the objective of confusing and disrupting an enemy who until now has chosen his targets at leisure. Rather than batter Afghanistan, whence any terrorist worth his Cemtex departed long ago, the West should act unexpectedly and without mercy against states which allow Al-Qaeda. There is no need to go into details here. Doing so now offers at least the chance of gaining the respect of the Islamic world. Failing to do so makes probable a gradual accumulation of failures. It means that the war will be Al-Qaeda's to lose.

We were lucky with Hitler. We may not be so lucky again.

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To: Polybius
When pushed far enough, Americans can kill into the 5 or 6-figures in a single day.

I stand by my statement ... and look at the article. Vietnam. Everything else you mentioned was pre-television era. The TV images made America turn against Vietnam.

21 posted on 10/11/2001 8:27:14 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: wretchard
Re:
"..We are in the early days yet. Al-Qaeda has taught the world fear;
now it will teach them to hate...."

Terribly accurate, and more to fear than some would like to believe.

22 posted on 10/11/2001 8:27:37 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: Polybius
The Islamists problem is that Americans, in general, are far more efficient at killing and everything else, than they are.

They've been at war with us for about 10 years. We just noticed a month ago.

Has anybody noticed that their suicide bombings, if effective, fit the classic definition of a "wasting asset?" They use up their efficient fighters, leaving the less efficient to carry on. Hopefully, they lost their 19 most efficient a month ago.

23 posted on 10/11/2001 8:29:32 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: RogueIsland
Sounds like territorial ambitions to me.

Good point. Yes, for all of his "religious" theatrics, "Pig Chow" Osama is sure dreaming of getting his 72 virgins in this life, he sends young naive sucker kids to murder themselves for his material gain.

And those who would follow him are the same, they want no God, they wouldn't know religion if it stepped on them, they simply want land and power. They want Israel's land, and they want to be colonialists globally: the goal of "fundamentalists" lives down to the worst caricature of the US they paint.

They perceive the US as a country that rules the world, and their rage is inspired by jealousy of the role they imagine this country plays.

"Power hungry dogs" describes only one side of this conflict: Osama and his thugs. They're entirely territorial ambitious, they have maps of the whole world painted green. The US has never had such maps.

24 posted on 10/11/2001 8:29:42 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: aculeus
I have a hard time taking seriously a man's whose prose is so florid and extravagant. The cloying use of "Sir John" to refer to Keegan is irritating and effete. If one must speculate, give me a hard headed, self-effacing, practical analyst, a minimalist who knows the uses of Occam's razor. This guy has visions of himself that are far too grandiose, and that grandiosity is laced throughout this piece.
26 posted on 10/11/2001 8:33:01 PM PDT by beckett
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To: BunnySlippers
"Americans have no taste for killing ... but another terrorist attack of sufficient magnitude will toughen our resolve. It's us or them."

America and Americans will kill, and they will do it in whatever numbers are necessary.

27 posted on 10/11/2001 8:33:09 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: calmseas
Hitler's tactical advantage lay in his capacity to be more horrible than his opponents could imagine.

This is also tripe for another reason. Hitler's principal opponent was Stalin who was even a bigger butcher.

28 posted on 10/11/2001 8:36:21 PM PDT by The Iron Duke
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To: Restorer
If the Jews had guns... less than 2 bullets each to kill those Nazis...
29 posted on 10/11/2001 8:36:55 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: vedicstar
I think he means all muslims. It may come to that.

I agree that it could. However, I tend to cringe at the thought of killing one billion people. Must be a weakness of mine.

We called Hitler a villain because he killed 10,000,000 or so, yet lots of posters here calmly toss out suggestions for killing 100 times that many.

30 posted on 10/11/2001 8:37:04 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Deep_6
Ya like this is some real deep problem. It is all about command. With out that little people don't kill themselves. This is not a problem of destroying a whole bunch of people - it is about killing the command and doing so for a long period of time. Try to imagine yourself getting hold of an airliner and flying it into the masque at Mecca - you couldn't do it without a group supporting you. Without leaders there are no groups - and nearly all leader do so for a reason, that doesn't include being killed.
31 posted on 10/11/2001 8:39:12 PM PDT by TheHound
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To: Richard Kimball
I agree this articleis particularly informative and insightful.

However, this is different than Vietnam. We have the memory of 911 to harden our resolve. In Vietnam, we had a new generation exposed to the "horror" of killing innocents and we were forced to look inward. Not this time. The introspection will be done this time by the Muslim.

No academic, no movement, no cause can overcome the killing of those innocents on 911. We remember how parts of our media and university establishments tried unsuccessfully to have us examine ourselves as the cause. The "horror" of the innocents outweighs all other considerations.

Their only weapon against our wrath was to sway the world to the point of view that we are the terrorists. I say "was" because they failed to turn the American people against themselves as was done in Vietnam. They failed because nothing justifies the evil committed on 911 in the eyes of America. Nothing.

They are now consigned to sway their own to the notion of America as terrorist. They are winning on that front perhaps but it doesn't matter. American resolve will force the Muslim to look inward.

As President Bush so eloquently stated, "Adversity introduces you to yourself". So it must be, so it will be with the Muslim.

32 posted on 10/11/2001 8:40:30 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: aculeus
Given that Al-Qaeda has tendrils deep in numerous governments, even a nuclear bombardment of one rogue state might not diminish its capacities.

They would have to have total control of a local government, as they did in Afghanistan (but nowhere else), not mere "tendrils". Otherwise, the people who do control the country would kick them out, as a matter of simple survival, once presented with such an example of the alternative.

33 posted on 10/11/2001 8:44:08 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Deep_6
We have become a nation of fear

On the contrary, on 11 Sep 01 we realized we had to remove our sheeps' clothing and [sigh] once more act like the big, bad wolf. Actually, it's not an act, we really are the big, bad wolf, and we don't need no steenkin' Bumb or the B-2, or the Bunker Buster, although since they are handy we will use what's necessary. It's the sheep role that is an act.

34 posted on 10/11/2001 8:46:58 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: TheHound
re:
"...It is all about command. With out that little people don't
kill themselves....."

You appear sure of that. I wouldn't trust that judgment.

Religious conviction and a desire to serve the master is all that's
needed. When their "God" is their command, how do you stifle it?

Usama bin Laden is just a token; a convenient name for this immediate
battle, but you surely don't think that without him, it's ended? He
is not their God; their religion. He is not their cleric, he only has provided
a financial means to an end. And I don't for an instant, think that
financial backing will end that easily.

Those believers are not afraid of death. We are. And it's damned
tough to battle one that does not fear.

 

 

35 posted on 10/11/2001 8:48:25 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: aculeus
We were lucky with Hitler. We may not be so lucky again.

Some luck. Only how many millions dead?

I have to wonder about someone who can write a sentence like that. It calls his judgement into question.

36 posted on 10/11/2001 8:49:37 PM PDT by x
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To: Polybius
Agreed. The German initial tactical advantage lay in the fact that the Germans invented the AIR-LAND Battle doctrine while the French were busy burying themselves in the ground and leaving their left flank in the air.

That is a good point, and was the foundation of the "Blitzkrieg." Air control plus fast armor and concentration of effort. Once the Nazis started losing control of the air, they stopped winning battles. Very direct correlation.

The real difference here is that Hitler wanted to impose an ideology on those who didn't want it. Here, Osama wants to expel a foreign ideology that his "people" (he believes) don't want. He is waging a classic resistance battle, much like the Russians fought in World War II, without the weaponry of the Soviets but with the masses of adherents. The problem for the West is, there are only three ways to win: leave the region and quarantine it, win over the hearts and minds of the inhabitants, or wipe out either the people or the indigenous ideology (radical Islam). None of those is especially easy and palatable.

37 posted on 10/11/2001 8:54:42 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: aculeus
Well, that's it then. We'll just have to kill them all.
38 posted on 10/11/2001 8:56:31 PM PDT by Andrew Byler
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To: Jorge
I do not agree that Islam can win this war, however, I disagree with your stated view that they would lose because they oppress their own people.

The people that attacked us, as well as the thousands of protesters against the Western powers, represent the chief beneficiaries of the 'Taliban' style of Islam.

That is the total empowerment of the 'Male' in Society, at the exclusion of Women, as spiritual/physical leader of His respective wives and children.

Brutal, yes, Uncivilized, yes...but appealing to many of these despondent people, that seem to cling to the notion of totalitarian control of their small enclaves of Family members.

The maniacs that will fling themselves against us, with explosives attached to their bodies, really believe it is better than living with Western Culture, and these males, are the chief beneficiaries of the radical form of Islamic religious practices.

You have to understand your enemy, in order to defeat them.

When I say defeat, I mean absolute Victory, which means to win the hearts of these people that remain, not just total elimination of all Muslims, which is not possible without threatening the entire World.

We are correct in the quick elimination of any we can identify as current 'suicide attackers', however, to think that just from bombing, and killing, we can stop maniacs from seeking revenge, it is not in America's interest, in order to preserve Our Liberty, to only destroy those that have already made their threatening position evident, we must also address the problem of osama-wanna-be's, cropping up all over the Globe.

This is the 'longer' battle we face, and the one we must win, before America retreats into a 'Police State', in order to somehow make the promise of safety.

39 posted on 10/11/2001 8:57:05 PM PDT by KeepTheEdge
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To: aculeus
If Hitler (to cite one among many examples) had not declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor but instead offered himself as a mediator between Washington and Tokyo, would the US have declared war on Germany? And in the absence of US involvement in Europe, would Hitler have lost? Or if Hitler had thrown the British into the sea at Dunkirk rather than holding back his tanks? Or if Hitler had enlisted the Ukrainians and Balts as allies rather than butchering them? Like the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, Al-Qaeda might win, and by the same methods.

I think that he forgets that as he made each of these decisons he was following the advise of his daemon. He could not more have chosen otherwise than he could have added four inches to his height. That daemon had persuaded him that America was a contemptable power, that the British upper classes would push Churchill aside, and that the Slavs were vermin who had to be cleared from the land. So he failed, even though he ruled the single most powerful nation in Europe.

40 posted on 10/11/2001 8:57:07 PM PDT by RobbyS
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