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Sir John Keegan is wrong: radical Islam could win
Asia Times ^ | October 12, 2001 | Spengler

Posted on 10/11/2001 7:44:09 PM PDT by aculeus

"In this war of civilizations, the West will prevail," argues the distinguished historian Sir John Keegan, the Defense Editor of the Daily Telegraph, in a commentary on October 8. Why is he so sure? If Sir John were in command on the Western side, I would be inclined to bet on a different outcome.

Sir John references Samuel Huntington's "clash of civilizations" theory and adds:

"Westerners fight face to face, in stand-up battle, and go on until one side or the other gives in. They choose the crudest weapons available, and use them with appalling violence, but observe what, to non-Westerners may well seem curious rules of honour. Orientals, by contrast, shrink from pitched battle, which they often deride as a sort of game, preferring ambush, surprise, treachery and deceit as the best way to overcome an enemy."

Although the nomadic raid lost out to Western resistance over the centuries, Keegan writes, "On September 11, 2001 it returned in an absolutely traditional form. Arabs, appearing suddenly out of empty space like their desert raider ancestors, assaulted the heartlands of Western power, in a terrifying surprise raid and did appalling damage."

Readers who reproached me for using the word "racism" to qualify Washington's orientation toward the Islamic world should read Keegan's essay carefully. Here we have the upright Westerner against the underhanded Oriental. Kipling (who wrote vividly about the sneakiness of the British in the Great Game) would blush.

It's all completely, totally, revoltingly wrong. The West confronts not a throwback to medieval Islam, but a Westernized version of Islam transformed into a totalitarian political ideology. Although it draws upon Islamic sources and overlaps with some strains of Muslim belief, the ideology of Al-Qaeda has greater kinship with Nazism, another synthetic pagan religion, than with traditional Islam.

Like Nazism, it is a deadly threat. Remember that Hitler very nearly won. If Hitler (to cite one among many examples) had not declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor but instead offered himself as a mediator between Washington and Tokyo, would the US have declared war on Germany? And in the absence of US involvement in Europe, would Hitler have lost? Or if Hitler had thrown the British into the sea at Dunkirk rather than holding back his tanks? Or if Hitler had enlisted the Ukrainians and Balts as allies rather than butchering them? Like the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, Al-Qaeda might win, and by the same methods.

Keegan dwells on a strained analogy of tactics and ignores a fundamental difference in objectives. No traditional society destroyed for the pleasure of destruction; at least none of which we have had reports. The Islamic conquerors of the past raided for identifiable goals. They wished to rule new territories and bring new peoples under their sway. Whether greed or missionary zeal drove them on, let historians argue. The West ultimately drove back these incursions and broke the back of Islamic power.

Al-Qaeda wants no territory, no conversions, no loot, no slaves. It wishes to destroy the West and happily will sacrifice millions of Muslim lives in order to do so. Indeed, the mass sacrifice of Muslim lives may lie at the heart of its battle plan. It has more in common with the Dostoyevsky of The Possessed or the Wagner of Die Goetterdaemmerung than with the Muslim conquerors of the Middle Ages.

Evil for its own sake becomes imaginable only when the Christian civilization of the West abandons Christianity and stares into the abyss of its own destruction. Before Dostoyevsky, Ibsen, and Wagner presented the relevant profiles, Western literature had the matter in its pure form, in the character of Mephisto in Goethe's Faust. "I am a part of that part which in the beginning was everything," he tells Faust. "A part of darkness that gave birth to light; the proud light, that now contests Mother Night's old rank and space." Al-Qaeda is the darkness that covets the position of light and wishes only to destroy. "I am the spirit that always negates," Mephisto offers, "and rightly so, because everything that comes to be is worthy of its own destruction." Unlike the Western adherents of Nietzsche, who cried, "God is dead, and everything is permitted!", the Islamist radicals have invented a God who permits everything.

Sir John should read carefully Fouad Ajami's profile "Nowhere man" of terrorist Mohammed Atta in the New York Times of October 7. "In more recent years, younger Egyptians gave up on the place, came to dream of fulfillment - economic, personal, political - in foreign lands. Mohammed Atta, who left for Germany in 1993, was part of that migration, of that rupturing of things on the banks of the Nile. Religion came to Atta unexpectedly, in Hamburg, where he had gone for a graduate degree in urban planning ... The modern world unsettled Atta. He exalted the traditional, but it could no longer give him a home. He drifted in 'infidel' lands but could never be fully at ease. He led an itinerant life. The magnetic power of the American imperium had fallen across his country. He arrived here with a presumption, and a claim. We had intruded into his world; he would shatter the peace of ours. The glamorized world couldn't be fully had; it might as well be humbled and taken down," wrote the professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the School of Advanced International Studies at the Johns Hopkins University.

"It must have been easy work for the recruiters who gave Atta a sense of mission, a way of doing penance for the liberties he had taken in the West, and the material means to live the plotter's life. A hybrid kind has been forged across that seam between the civilization of Islam and the more emancipated culture of the West. Behold the children, the issue, of this encounter as they flail about and rail against the world in no-man's-land," concludes Ajami.

Mohammed Atta, to Ajami's expert eye, is the direct descendant of Dostoyevsky's Raskolnikov, the impoverished student from an Old Believer family adrift in St Petersburg, who kills for the sake of doing evil.

The grand vulnerability of the Western mind is horror. The Nazis understood this and pursued a policy "des Schreckens" (to cause horror) and "Entsetzens" (terror, literally: dislodgement). Horror was not merely an instrument of war in the traditional sense, but a form of Wagnerian theater, or psychological warfare on the grand scale. Hitler's tactical advantage lay in his capacity to be more horrible than his opponents could imagine. The most horrible thing of all is that he well might have succeeded if not for his own megalomaniac propensity to overreach.

America, as Osama bin Laden taunted this week, lost in Vietnam. But it was not military setbacks, but the horrific images of Vietnamese civilians burned by napalm, that lost the war. America's experience in the war is enshrined in popular culture in the film Apocalypse Now, modeled after Joseph Conrad's story, The Heart of Darkness. The Belgian trading company official, Paul Kurtz, sinks into bestiality and dies with these words: "The horror! The horror!" It was a dreadful film, but a clever reference. At the close of World War I, T S Eliot subtitled his epitaph for Western civilization, The Wasteland, with a quote from the Conrad story: "Mr Kurtz, he dead."

From America's moral collapse in the face of the horror of Vietnam, there arose a repudiation of classical Western culture unlike anything seen previously in the English-speaking world. The West nearly threw up its hands in the face of the challenge from the Soviet Union in the late 1970s.

Getting down to tactics, how can Al-Qaeda overcome the West with horror? Let us suppose that some state or state agency over which Al-Qaeda wields influence possesses a weapon of mass destruction, with sufficient potency to cause a very large number of deaths in a Western country. If it deploys that weapon and causes a very large number of casualties, the West may have no choice but to bombard the offending country with nuclear weapons and destroy its capacity to make war. Given that Al-Qaeda has tendrils deep in numerous governments, even a nuclear bombardment of one rogue state might not diminish its capacities. The West would be left with the horrific fact of mass destruction of civilians combined with continued insecurity.

Time is on the side of Al-Qaeda. Sir John's strategic advice is dangerously wrong. He wrote on October 8 that "President Bush in his speech to his nation and to the Western world yesterday, promised a traditional Western response. He warned that there would be 'a relentless accumulation of success'. Relentlessness, as opposed to surprise and sensation, is the Western way of warfare. It is deeply injurious to the Oriental style and rhetoric of war-making."

On the contrary, the West should think of itself as the underdog, fighting against the clock, and seize the tactical initiative. It should act unpredictably, with the objective of confusing and disrupting an enemy who until now has chosen his targets at leisure. Rather than batter Afghanistan, whence any terrorist worth his Cemtex departed long ago, the West should act unexpectedly and without mercy against states which allow Al-Qaeda. There is no need to go into details here. Doing so now offers at least the chance of gaining the respect of the Islamic world. Failing to do so makes probable a gradual accumulation of failures. It means that the war will be Al-Qaeda's to lose.

We were lucky with Hitler. We may not be so lucky again.

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1 posted on 10/11/2001 7:44:11 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Al-Qaeda wants no territory

I don't think this is quite correct. I've read good articles that convincingly suggest that Bin Laden is quite interested in overthrowing the secular governments of the middle east, Saudi Arabia in particular, and unifying them all under his vision of an Islamic mega state. Sounds like territorial ambitions to me.

2 posted on 10/11/2001 7:52:09 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: aculeus
radical Islam could win

Na-ah, we got the Bomb!

3 posted on 10/11/2001 7:55:47 PM PDT by eclectic
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To: aculeus
I respectfully disagree. The attacks on 9/11 were not war. They were theater. Spectacularly evil theater, but theater nonetheless.

The Western way of war, waged most successfully by the Romans, is methodical and scientific. Horror shows work only on those who give in to the horror. I refuse to believe that the US will surrender because we are freaked out.

They can do enormous damage, possibly. Especially if they get their hands on nukes, which is quite likely. Are they capable of defeating or destroying the US and its allies? Absolutely not!

Surrender to these people would only bring a chance for life in a world where death would be preferable.

4 posted on 10/11/2001 7:58:09 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: aculeus
I don't know that being evil first is the way to defeat evil. I do think he has a point ... evil can pull the plug on this whole ball of wax if it ever truly wants to. If and when it tries, I don't think we will want to oblige it by helping.
5 posted on 10/11/2001 7:58:20 PM PDT by gjenkins
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To: aculeus
This is a brilliant article. I've been thinking, ever since the attacks, that we are walking around in a state of denial. We view wars as something like WWII. The countries fight, one wins, a treaty is signed. These people don't see it that way. As long as they breathe, they want to kill. They love killing us more than they hate seeing their children die. At some point in time, we will be faced with the prospect of either the constant attack, response, that the other side seems to love so much, or we will say, "I guess we'll have to kill them all."

We want that "Perry Mason" moment. We want the other side to confess. If we kill all but two people in Afghanistan, one of them will start searching for a way to get revenge.

6 posted on 10/11/2001 8:00:14 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: aculeus
Hitler's tactical advantage lay in his capacity to be more horrible than his opponents could imagine. The most horrible thing of all is that he well might have succeeded if not for his own megalomaniac propensity to overreach.

This is just stupid. This advantage lasted right up to the outbreak of war and ended right there. His "horribleness" during the war (the camps, massacres of civilians in occupied countries, the "master race" doctrine) was almost certainly a net detriment to his ability to win the war. (As the author states in a slightly form.)

How does one wage war more "horribly" than with nuclear weapons and "firestorm" attacks as were used on Dresden and Hanburg?

Horrifying Nazis? Pathetic amateurs.

7 posted on 10/11/2001 8:03:31 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Richard Kimball
We view wars as something like WWII. The countries fight, one wins, a treaty is signed. These people don't see it that way. As long as they breathe, they want to kill. They love killing us more than they hate seeing their children die. At some point in time, we will be faced with the prospect of either the constant attack, response, that the other side seems to love so much, or we will say, "I guess we'll have to kill them all."

you have a point and they have a lot in common with kamikaze pilots.

Of course we know what cooled that fury .... 35 kiltons of radiant energy.

It may require much more than that this time.

8 posted on 10/11/2001 8:06:30 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Richard Kimball
At some point in time, we will be faced with the prospect of either the constant attack, response, that the other side seems to love so much, or we will say, "I guess we'll have to kill them all."

Good point. Who do you nominate as "them all?"

All Arabs? All Moslems? All "people of middle eastern appearance"? All people with skin darker than yours?

I agree we might have to kill them all. I just don't want to expand this class more than necessary.

If necessary, we do have the capability to kill as large a number as required.

9 posted on 10/11/2001 8:06:38 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Richard Kimball
"I guess we'll have to kill them all."

I think we are going to come quickly to this conclusion. Ultimately, I believe, it will be them or us. It's a horrible choice but one we may have to make.

10 posted on 10/11/2001 8:10:41 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Richard Kimball
or we will say, "I guess we'll have to kill them all."

Since 9/11 I have felt this has to be the only solution. Americans have no taste for killing ... but another terrorist attack of sufficient magnitude will toughen our resolve. It's us or them.

11 posted on 10/11/2001 8:15:58 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Restorer
Hitler's tactical advantage lay in his capacity to be more horrible than his opponents could imagine....

This is just stupid. This advantage lasted right up to the outbreak of war and ended right there.

How does one wage war more "horribly" than with nuclear weapons and "firestorm" attacks as were used on Dresden and Hanburg?

Agreed. The German initial tactical advantage lay in the fact that the Germans invented the AIR-LAND Battle doctrine while the French were busy burying themselves in the ground and leaving their left flank in the air.

Death camps merely siphoned resources from the German war effort.

12 posted on 10/11/2001 8:17:50 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: aculeus
radical Islam could win

Wrong. Radical Islam is self defeating in that it oppresses it's own people and will always produce a society that is under-achieving, weak and backward compared to the free societies of the western world.

13 posted on 10/11/2001 8:18:32 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: aculeus
Fairly profound reading, but a slight bit skewed.

The terrorists are fighting against a known quantity; a country;
Our country; Our Nation; Our army and our people.

We are fighting against the unknown, a group that disappears
at will, into the night.

We're fighting a hypothetical; battling against a hypothetical force.
We are fighting "what ifs"; imagined quantities and fears instilled
by suggestion and imagination alone. A large percentage of the
time, we are our own enemy.

This fine web site, with all the intellect and mental power that is
brought forth to these forums, we read posts that relate the fears.

One claiming the possibility of water supply contamination, another
regarding power supplies and grids. Nuclear power as a target, and
our dams. Anthrax, sarin gas and various plagues.

Those that promote giving up rights and liberties for security, and
those of us that fear the loss of rights and liberties more than the
loss of any security.

We have become a nation of fear, and we are afraid to admit it.

Unlike Hitler, the terrorists are not bound to a nation or country.
They can roam like gypsies, striking at random. The unfortunate
complication it creates, is a certain madness that encourages other
psychopaths to strike in their shadow. We will not readily know if it's
our terrorist enemy from afar, or the one emerging from the home-grown
psychopath's mind.

We are at war...... but we will have trouble finding our enemy.

It will be a long, long journey and we should take note of those
around us, if they are capable of going the distance or not.

We'll have to lend a hand to those that weaken, not fight among
ourselves as we have already begun to do.

That'll be 1/2 the battle. I'm not sure what the other 1/2 is.
And I have a feeling Spengler doesn't know either.

14 posted on 10/11/2001 8:20:24 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: aculeus
"Unleash Hell!"
15 posted on 10/11/2001 8:20:30 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: aculeus
Anyone who has faced an Al-Qaeda type organization will know that they must lose. Their principal weakness is what Spengler accounts as their strength: their extreme ruthlessness and nihilism. American popular culture discovered radical Islam belatedly. Before the the World Trade Center, there was Iran, Algeria, Aceh, Timor, Mindanao, Jammu and Kashmir and Afghanistan itself. But no one sat up and noticed, because they were only killing wogs.

Hundreds of thousands of Third World citizens have died at the hands of radical Islamists and they've generated a backlash all their own. Iran is a case in point. The mullahs are a spent force. The Afghans hate the Taliban, and given enough time, will kill them off. You only have to travel to the Mollucas to know that the Jehad boys are facing their own Vietnam. And do you remember the Bamian Buddhas? The Jehad boys want to take on the world. Injustice and intolerance for all is their watchword, and resistance and revenge will be the common riposte.

Spengler needn't worry that the West's will to fight radical Islamism will flag. Al-Qaeda will supply the goad. A blown nuclear reactor here, an anthrax attack there, a schoolhouse full of children with their throats cut thrown in for good measure, will ensure that we will look back on September 11, 2001 as the "good old days".

Al-Qaeda's entire repertoire consists soley of the drumbeat of death. In their universe, homes are principally useful for burying homosexuals alive and it will not occur to them to employ shavers for any other purpose than slitting someone's throat.

We are in the early days yet. Al-Qaeda has taught the world fear; now it will teach them to hate.
16 posted on 10/11/2001 8:22:17 PM PDT by wretchard
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To: RogueIsland
Islam is increasing in population. The pro-abortion West is decreasing in population. To win, we have to change.
17 posted on 10/11/2001 8:22:46 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: aculeus
Hitler's tactical advantage lay in his capacity to be more horrible than his opponents could imagine. The most horrible thing of all is that he well might have succeeded if not for his own megalomaniac propensity to overreach.

I have heard this before, and it is a fallacy. The days of the Thousand Years' Reich were number from the moment Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese.

18 posted on 10/11/2001 8:22:56 PM PDT by calmseas
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To: BunnySlippers
Americans have no taste for killing ...

Dresden. Berlin. Cologne. Hamburg. The Tokyo Fire Raids. Hiroshima. Nagasaki.

When pushed far enough, Americans can kill into the 5 or 6-figures in a single day.

19 posted on 10/11/2001 8:23:58 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
Right. At its high point the Axis armed forces in Europe numbered around 10,000,000 men. They spent untold resources shipping Jews and others all over Europe, instead of just killing them on the spot. Let's see, how long would it take 10,000,000 soldiers to kill 6,000,000 Jews, if deployed logically?
20 posted on 10/11/2001 8:24:43 PM PDT by Restorer
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