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Is Islam Violent?
Chuckmorse.com ^ | Oct. 11, 2001 | Chuck Morse

Posted on 10/11/2001 10:52:36 AM PDT by Chuckmorse

Is Islam Violent?

As Americans we are steeped in republican values such as limited government, individual rights, and a separation of church and state.
We traditionally view our neighbor with a live and let live attitude and, while we may not always approve, more often than not we tolerate our differences.
This is why, with all our imperfections, and God knows we have many, we somehow hold together as the most genuinely diverse society ever known to man.

As a result, we seem to have this almost myopic view of the rest of the world.
We assume that all faiths, political as well as religious, are like ours, which tends to involve a personal relationship with a God whom we look to as the creator of our natural sovereign rights.
We have trouble imagining a nation under the direct rule of clerics, or commissars, who interpret the will of God, or science, and use the muscular force of the state to carry out their interpretations.

Our nation was born after a bloody revolution against a tyrannical British monarch, King George III.
This experience imbued our founding generation with a respect for the sovereign rights of nations.
America has often championed the cause of independence from Latin America in the nineteenth century to Europe during the World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, and Kuwait.
We instinctively loathed European colonialism with its attempt to physically dominate the world.
Likewise, we as a people rejected the maniacal new world order visions of both Nazism and Communism.

While we’ve certainly had our share of imperialists operating in the inner reaches of our government and amongst a small segment of our most wealthy establishment, the American people have been notoriously opposed to world dominating schemes.
It has never been an element of our religious or political faith.
Our idea of utopia has always been to live in peace, under our proverbial fig tree, and leave our neighbor alone to peruse the same.
Jefferson expressed this best when he noted in the Declaration of Independence that the truths we hold to be self-evident are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

The vast majority of Muslims who have settled in America have, thank God, adopted the same peaceful American faith that most of the rest of us have regardless of individual means of worshiping God or not worshiping as the case may be.
The same cannot be said of the nations of the world which are presently dominated by religious Muslims.
The religious Muslim movement, like Nazism and left-wing Communism before it, has seized the reigns of power in several sovereign states.
Like the Nazi’s and Communists, they are using that power to spread terror across the planet.

The citizens of these Islamic states chafe under the same type of brutal authoritarianism and one party religious dictatorship as Europeans suffered under Nazism or that Chinese, Cubans or North Koreans suffer under the brutal jackboot of left-wing Communism.
The mobs coursing through the streets of Islamic cities chanting anti-American slogans are the same as the Nazi brown shirts looting Jewish businesses during Kristalnacht or Communists burning and looting American inner cities during the summer of love.

Even though we may be loath to admit it, religious Islam clearly does contain seeds of violence of a type similar to that of its Nazi and Communist counterparts.
Like their counterparts, Islam advocates war, or Jihad, as a means of conquering the non-Islamic world.
Moderate Muslims have westernized the meaning of Jihad to mean peaceful personal struggle and this is a genuinely progressive development.
Like the Nazis and Communists, however, the religious Muslims believe that world peace and happiness will be obtained under what they maintain is the only true faith.
Like the Nazis and Communists, they believe that anything is permissible in the pursuit of this glorious goal including total subjugation of peoples and mass murder.

Chuck Morse Is the author of “Why I’m a Right-Wing Extremist” www.chuckmorse.com


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To: Chuckmorse
Is Islam Violent?

Is a frog's *** watertight?

21 posted on 10/11/2001 12:49:25 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: All
According to the Koran, the Muslim bible, they kill Christians and Jews and anyone else who will not convert to Islam. Read it for yourself instead of listening to the news, since they are not interested in facts.
23 posted on 10/11/2001 1:44:56 PM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: Chuckmorse
Surely I'm not the first to ask, "Is the Pope Catholic?"
24 posted on 10/11/2001 2:28:41 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Islam actually preaches that the Muslims should invade and take over the world. There are over 40 Islamic countries around the world. Each of which was taken by force and millions of the original inhabitants were killed and millions were converted by force.

Thanks for the flag Victoria. Excellent comments.

Most Muslim countries around the world are dictatorships; they differ only in the degree of oppression and brutality inflicted upon their non-Muslim citizens. In every country with a Muslim majority population, the minority population is terrorized and persecuted in the name of Islam.

The US and its allies say we are not at war with Islam. But bin Laden, his terrorist networks and the states that harbor and support them certainly disagree. They certainly think they are engaged in a religious war against the great Satan, and their objective is to kill the infidels and destroy Western civilization.

We ignore or downplay their threats at our peril.

25 posted on 10/11/2001 2:33:28 PM PDT by William Wallace
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To: Chuckmorse

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26 posted on 10/11/2001 2:42:24 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: Austin Willard Wright
How about if we just keep them out of our country, and insist they abide by basic civilized rules? I will believe that Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion when I see Islamic countries allow religious freedom and practice tolerance within their borders. Not likely.
27 posted on 10/11/2001 2:52:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Restorer
Show me a democratic Muslim country. We don't have a democracy this is a republic. In what country do Muslims have the greatest freedom to practice their faith? Christians do not have rights in Muslim countries. That's enough for me to trash this bogus religion.
28 posted on 10/11/2001 2:59:21 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: ChiMark
Show me a democratic Muslim country.

I read somewhere on this forum that Turkey is the only one.

29 posted on 10/11/2001 3:15:32 PM PDT by Mushinronshasan
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To: PaxMacian
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30 posted on 10/11/2001 3:45:27 PM PDT by chicagolady
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To: Chuckmorse
Is Islam violent? Of course not, a religion cannot be anything physical. Are the devotees of the Koran a death cult? Of course they are. Until they create a civilization that can build things, not destroy them, nurture life, and not preach and rejoice at the taking of it, they will remain so. Of course I will be called a Xenophobe, a racist, or worse, but that doesn't matter, the truth, is the truth.
31 posted on 10/11/2001 4:02:54 PM PDT by jeremiah
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To: Chuckmorse
Does the bear shi'ite in the woods?
32 posted on 10/11/2001 4:07:46 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Mushinronshasan
In addition to Turkey, add Egypt, Algeria, Bangladesh, Indonesia (the most populous Muslim nation). Women can vote in all these countries as well.

Bangladesh and Indonesia currently have elected *female* heads of state. (Turkey and Pakistan have also had female Prime Ministers in the past.)

Pakistan was a democracy until it was hijacked by the military relatively recently (another reason besides the unauthorized nuke testing we had sanctions against them. They've apparently been lifted as a trade for their cooperation in the operation on Afghanistan.)

There are many pseudo-democracies as well where there are public elections for some of the chambers/parliaments or some elected heads of government combined with an appointed (or royal) head of state.

33 posted on 10/11/2001 4:09:29 PM PDT by Gobsmacked
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To: Chuckmorse
Yes, Islam foments violence and that is why the U.S. has finally resolved to fight against it and its evil followers.
34 posted on 10/11/2001 4:10:43 PM PDT by theoutsideman
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To: Chuckmorse
Do filthy Afghans have B.O.?

Does Bin Laden rape women?

Do bears defecate in the woods?

35 posted on 10/11/2001 4:12:04 PM PDT by Doc Savage
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Kill all their leaders and convert them to Christianity?

Sounds like an idea whose time has come.

36 posted on 10/11/2001 4:27:16 PM PDT by winstonchurchill
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To: matamoros
You may as well add the U.S. to that list. We have a sizable population of muslims in this country. Bob Grant (radio talk show host) quoted a muslim leader (I can neither remember his name, nor pronounce it anyway), that "soon enough of our brothers will populate America that we can vote in government officials who are sympathetic to Islam." They mean to take over this country one way or the other.
37 posted on 10/11/2001 4:28:22 PM PDT by In mourning for six years
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To: winstonchurchill
Are you serious? If you are, you are talking about World War III squared. How about a more realistic alternative? Retaliate and get the hell out of that screwed up region, lock, stock, barrel.
38 posted on 10/11/2001 4:59:55 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Pining_4_TX
Even better, let's stay out of that screwed up region once we have retaliated. What possible benefit could there be for the U.S. to become more deeply entangled there?
39 posted on 10/11/2001 5:01:19 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: ppaul
That was an awesome site which answered many questions. Thanks.
40 posted on 10/11/2001 5:56:38 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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