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Broader plot may include Sept. 22 **Lots of Info**
Associated Press ^ | 9/19/01 | The Associated Press

Posted on 09/19/2001 5:10:29 PM PDT by grahm_crackers

Edited on 05/07/2004 8:26:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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1 posted on 09/19/2001 5:10:29 PM PDT by grahm_crackers
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To: grahm_crackers
It's almost unimaginable what they really had planned.

Time to rid the world of this scum.

2 posted on 09/19/2001 5:15:41 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: grahm_crackers
I wonder how they were going to use the amblulences and the fire trucks? Maybe to gain access to places they normally wouldn't be allowed in?
3 posted on 09/19/2001 5:18:11 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: grahm_crackers
Something I haven't seen posted: We owe a debt of gratitude to the air traffic controllers and pilots who acted so swiftly to get all other planes out of the air as quickly as they did. This may have prevented at least one more attack.
4 posted on 09/19/2001 5:21:51 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: VA Advogado
That's what I heard--load 'em up with bombs and drive 'em into secured areas.
5 posted on 09/19/2001 5:22:04 PM PDT by randog
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To: VA Advogado
A report I read earlier said they might steal fire engines and drive them, as high-speed bombs, into ground targets.
6 posted on 09/19/2001 5:22:30 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Dog Gone
True, but this assumes they were stupid enough to not anticipate the FAA would ground all planes as soon as it figured out what they were up to. I think it's just as likely that they had some backups in case the WTC and/or Pentagon missions failed. Knowing that they succeded, the others were just going to anonymously fly on and then return to their home base if they could.
7 posted on 09/19/2001 5:23:13 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers
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To: VA Advogado
A fire truck filled with gasoline would be a formidable weapon against unarmed civilians. Like their planning book states "Why attack a tiger (military) when there are so many sheep (unarmed civilians)?" These cowards would likely spray gasoline on a hosptal, or daycare in the name of Allah.

Maybe it's time for me to take my pistol out of the nightstand, and carry it in my glovebox.

8 posted on 09/19/2001 5:23:49 PM PDT by Hodar
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To: grahm_crackers
"The FBI said it has issued an advisory to fire departments across the country to increase security and guard against the theft of any ambulances or fire trucks, which could be used in bombing attacks. The bureau said the warning was precautionary."

I live in a very rural area, in fact, it does not have a name other than, the Fowl River area. We have a volunteer fire department with one truck and an EMS vehicle. I saw the FBI alert and called our VFD today. They say that they were notified yesterday. I'm impressed.

9 posted on 09/19/2001 5:24:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: VA Advogado
Probably something more like:

Suppose there's a big explsosion/fire/shooting somewhere.
Rescuers/police/media/gawkers arrive on the scene.
Then an ambulance loaded with ANFO and ball bearings slowly rolls toward the crowd......

You get the picture.

10 posted on 09/19/2001 5:25:46 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Real Cynic No More
I thought this was a real good article. They were in the Heartland.
11 posted on 09/19/2001 5:27:01 PM PDT by grahm_crackers
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To: randog
"That's what I heard--load 'em up with bombs and drive 'em into secured areas."

Yup. They would be allowed to enter the basement of any large building, lights flashing and all. (Maybe even escorted by unaware policemen)

12 posted on 09/19/2001 5:28:04 PM PDT by blam
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To: grahm_crackers
bump
13 posted on 09/19/2001 5:28:59 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Hodar
Islamic terrorists have been taught to believe that heaven and frisky virgins await them for dying in their unholy actions.

Courage has NOTHING to do with it.

The solution?

These so-called super-fighters have a Kryptonite vulnerability, an Achilles Heel.

They will fight like beasts for martyrdom, but martyrdom will be DENIED if...

...they are contaminated with the blood and flesh of the swine.

Every US military agent must be known to coat their bullets and missiles with pig guts.

Every terrorist killed in the entire world must be known to await burial in pigsh*t.

Use their own beloved Koran, the source of their strength, against them, and this is OVER!

Buy Boeing, American Airlines while they are cheap!

Click me for amusement!

14 posted on 09/19/2001 5:29:51 PM PDT by Stallone
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To: grahm_crackers
Suspect raised eyebrows at Oklahoma flight school

By PAT DOYLE, Minneapolis-St. Paul Star Tribune

NORMAN, Okla. - Nearly a year before he aroused suspicion in Minnesota, a man who is believed to be a high-ranking operative for Osama bin Laden corresponded by e-mail to a flight school under the pseudonym ''Zuluman Tango Tango,'' sometimes expressing vague fears about security.

After Zacarias Moussaoui arrived at the training school in Norman, he shunned the housing accepted by nearly all students and belabored such routines as getting a checking account. He was described as contrary and intense.

''I swore I'd never fly with him again,'' said flight instructor Azim Sumar, recalling one episode. ''He was stubborn. He wouldn't listen.''

In his intensity, Moussaoui often pressed the controls too hard - ''a death grip,'' Sumar called it.

Moussaoui has been detained since Aug. 17 on an immigration violation after flight instructors at a training center in Eagan, Minn., became suspicious when he wanted to learn to fly a commercial jet but not take off or land, sources have said. The New York Times reported Monday that Moussaoui is the most significant of four people flown to New York for questioning in last Tuesday's attacks.

He had established an odd persona in Oklahoma long before last week's events.

Norman police said Monday that they did an intensive investigation but still don't know where he lived during his stay in their city.

In September 2000, he inquired about attending Airman Flight School in Norman, sending e-mails to Brenda Keene, the admissions director.

''Originally, he said he wanted to become a commercial pilot,'' Keene said.

Moussaoui said he wanted to start classes in November. But his e-mails soon expressed concerns about the cost of the program, particularly the need to pay at least one-third of the tuition at the beginning. Instead of signing up for lessons that would include commercial flying, at a cost of $18,995, Moussaoui eventually opted for lessons to become a private pilot. Those cost $5,000.

The two corresponded by e-mail through February. He had persistent questions about the cost of the program, whether he could get extra training if he initially failed, and what assurance he had of getting a job as an instructor. He referred to himself simply as Zuluman TangoTango.

In January or early February, Keene said, she sent Moussaoui a student visa form that required him to provide a name, date of birth and other information. Moussaoui identified himself and said he was born May 30, 1968, in St. Jean de Luz, France. He listed a London address and appeared to have a valid French passport, she said.

On Feb. 22, he sent a final e-mail to Keene saying he was arriving in Chicago the next day on a United Airlines flight from London's Heathrow Airport.

Moussaoui enrolled Feb. 26, paying $2,500 in cash. Keene remembers the enrollment taking more than 2-1/2 hours because Moussaoui asked so many questions.

''It normally takes 15 minutes,'' she said.

Similarly, ''I sent someone to the bank with him to open an account, and it took him two hours,'' she said. ''He was very inquisitive. ...''

Although Moussaoui took the private pilot lessons, he continued to talk about flying commercially. ''That was weird,'' flight instructor Sumar said.

From March 5 to May 24 he took 57 hours of flying lessons, but he never flew solo and never got his private pilot's license.

At the end of the training period in late May, Moussaoui ''just left,'' Keene said.

Although it's unclear where he went from Norman, he appeared in Eagan this summer.

Moussaoui wound up at Eagan's Pan Am International Flight Academy, asking questions about renting a flight simulator for flying a commercial jet, sources said. He was arrested Aug. 17 in Minnesota after an instructor at Pan Am became suspicious and the FBI and immigration officials were notified.

He is being held on an alleged immigration violation and was transferred Friday from the Sherburne County jail to a site in New York.

Publication date: 09-18-01

15 posted on 09/19/2001 5:30:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: grahm_crackers
As far as additional targets in which emergency vehicles would be used, I have a guess.

The terrorists struck at the military

The terrorists struck at our commerce

The terrorists apparantly intended to strike at our government with Flight 93

What is the next logical target with multitudes of possible victims? Even more than WTC?

OUR CULTURE

Such as a large scale football game, baseball game etc.

How in the hell can we protect our children?

I pray for President Bush and our fine military every day.

I ask God to forgive our nation and protect us every day

I pray a lot.

16 posted on 09/19/2001 5:30:50 PM PDT by Thoeting
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To: grahm_crackers
GREAT POST!!!

The investigation, the largest in American history, has engulfed the full resources of the FBI, Justice Department, Customs Service, Treasury Department agencies that track assets and the CIA, National Security Agency and other spy agencies.

At least these poor people arn't having to spend their days protecting X-42. I'd tell you more, except I can't talk about an ungoing investigation. Bull$hit, We've hear that far to often. We have some exceptionally well qualified cops in our system. They are finally free to do their jobs, and they will do it very well.

God Bless America!

17 posted on 09/19/2001 5:30:52 PM PDT by Dale 1
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Ya...I can hear them now. Twin towers hit, what's the point of riding one in. Let's all go home so we can get out of Dodge alive!
18 posted on 09/19/2001 5:32:04 PM PDT by LukeSW
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Well, they don't seem to bright to me! These guys left clues all over the place.

And how bright was it to request that passengers on the plane which crashed in Pennsylvania to call home to say goodbye? That allowed the passengers to learn of the fate of the other planes and directly led to them being stormed by the irate passengers.

No, I am most definitely NOT impressed with the brains of these terrorists.

19 posted on 09/19/2001 5:33:43 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: grahm_crackers
Unbelievably, I know the pilot of the AA plane that was forced to land in St. Louis. The coppers arrested several "Middle Eastern" passengers after they tried to escape on Amtrak. He and his wife have four young children. Thank God this particular plot didn't succeed.
20 posted on 09/19/2001 5:34:34 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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