Posted on 06/26/2026 1:09:49 PM PDT by chickenlips
For those who cling to the insistence that President Trump is always playing 5D chess with his opponents, now would be a great time to explain to the rest of us what the strategy is behind his repeated recent moves to empower our existential Islamic enemies.
First Trump prevented Israel from finishing the job with the savage terror group Hamas in Gaza, going so far as to promise to invest in developing the Palestinian territories into the “Riviera of the Middle East.” Then, after vowing to rescue the Iranian people from the oppressive fundamentalist regime, Trump stopped short of finishing that job and made a deal with the mullahs and the IRGC instead of crushing them to the last man and demanding unconditional surrender.
Now Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance, who apparently remains tight with Islam apologist Tucker Carlson, are paving the way to sell F-35 fighter jets to Turkey, which is ruled by Islamic supremacist President Recep Erdogan.
In Trump’s first term, his administration removed Turkey from the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program and blocked any sales or deliveries of the jets over concerns that Turkey’s Russian air defense system could collect sensitive data on the stealth fighter’s capabilities, potentially compromising it for NATO allies. Now Trump is pressing for a workaround.
Vance told reporters on Wednesday that Trump asked him and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth to initiate a review to see how the United States could make the sale of the stealth fighters happen. The administration is also planning to move forward with the sale of dozens of General Electric jet engines to Turkey worth more than $700 million, technology that will power Turkey’s first indigenous combat jet program. SNIP>>>
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Why are we selling Turkey anything more sophisticated than a broken WWI biplane?
Oh because, they are a "NATO ally" and built one of the largest mosques in the USA in Lanham, MD?
We need to kick them out of NATO and take back Constantinople and North Cyprus.
Stupid. They are no “ally” in spite of being a NATO member.
Maybe Trump lost a bet to Erdogan on the soccer game last night?
US forces may be facing those stealth fighters in the future.
During the Cold War, Iran and Turkey were both allies in containing the expansion of the Soviet Union. That time has long since past. The Russian Air Force can’t handle Ukraine’s drones. Turkey doesn’t need F-35s even though its profitable for U.S. defense companies to sell them.
After we lost yesterday?
This is dumb. If Biden had done this we would have called him a traitor
I agree. I was in Turkey back when it has a secular government and it was an uncertain “ally” even then. Now? It is a Muslim country seeking to dominate all others.
Really STUPID for us to sell them anything more advanced than knives and hammers.
Which means they’re not as stealthy as marketed to the taxpayers.
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The delta that I see between Trump’s first term, when he banned sales of the F-35 to Turkey and now, when he wants to sell the F-35 to Turkey, is JD Vance. I was initially a big fan of Vance and his life story. Still mostly am, but his refusal to distance himself from people like Tucker and the groypers - people who openly throw ethnic slurs at Vance’s wife - is really giving me pause. I’m all for America First, and I believe Vance is too. But I’m not in favor of Islam A Close Second - I’m starting to wonder if Vance feels the same way or not.
You may be right about Vance being the culprit
Big mistake.
It is the follow up on the deal that Trump made with Erdogan for Turkey to work with the US in the Iran conflict.
I believe Turkey sold back to Russia the defense missile systems, because, the proved useless against Israel and the U.S., and lately against Ukraine.
Since the S-300 and S-400 missile defense systems are basically useless against the F-35s and F-22s, the Russian systems would not be able to gather any intelligence against those jets.
Drones and missiles have been taking out those Russian anti-missile systems as if they didn’t matter.
If Turkey is to be a NATO member, then treating them like one would be expected. But, I still don’t trust them, and the stealth jet tech could be easily passed on to Russia and our other enemies. Russia is still good friends with Turkey; but so is Trump with his buddy, Putin.
“The delta that I see between Trump’s first term, when he banned sales of the F-35 to Turkey and now, when he wants to sell the F-35 to Turkey, is JD Vance. I was initially a big fan of Vance and his life story. Still mostly am, but his refusal to distance himself from people like Tucker and the groypers - people who openly throw ethnic slurs at Vance’s wife - is really giving me pause. I’m all for America First, and I believe Vance is too. But I’m not in favor of Islam A Close Second - I’m starting to wonder if Vance feels the same way or not.”
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Vance is largely Peter Theil’s creation. Peter Theil is not “pro-American” or even MAGA, except when he can make personal profit from them.
This was the plan since day one, and was part of the larger plan to bring the cost of the aircraft down.
But a lot has happened since 2005 when the F-35 first flew...there has been a lot of water over the dam.
They were, at one time friendly to us and hostile to the Soviet Union, but those times have changed.
Bad move. Turkey is now in the enemy camp with an Islamic dictator.
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