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Supreme court oral argument - Trump v. Barbara - Birth Citizen case - 4/1/26
Supreme Court ^ | 4/1/26

Posted on 04/01/2026 6:45:19 AM PDT by CFW

The Court will hear oral arguments this morning at 10:00 in Trump v. Barbara.

Issue(s): Whether Executive Order No. 14,160 complies on its face with the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment and with 8 U.S.C. § 1401(a), which codifies that clause.

The key arguments in the birthright citizenship case here:.

Key Arguments

Audio of oral arguments here:

Supreme Court

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Scotusblog is liveblogging here:

liveblog

(Excerpt) Read more at supremecourt.gov ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; citizenship; illegalaliens; scotus; trump
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For court watchers, oral arguments on the citizenship case is today at 10:00.
1 posted on 04/01/2026 6:45:19 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CottonBall; spacejunkie2001; Bshaw; ptsal; 11th_VA; Reno89519; newfreep; frogjerk; OneVike; ...

SCOTUS ping!


2 posted on 04/01/2026 6:45:39 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

The most important decision I can recall in my lifetime. If scotus gets this wrong, the grand experiment of the untied states of America is over.


3 posted on 04/01/2026 6:51:36 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: CFW

Oh wait for the hysterics, if Trump wins. And can we send our favorite Minneapolis, that rhymes with runt, back to Somalia. New elections, with voter ID. I would prefer a litmus test... Islamic... no public office for you. Muslims cannot be trusted, it’s a lying Satanic death cult.


4 posted on 04/01/2026 6:52:15 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: AuntB

Agreed. This should be a slam dunk 8-1 decision in favor of Trump.

But with this court it’s 50-50 at best.

L


5 posted on 04/01/2026 6:53:41 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: CFW

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...”

I read that countless times and to me it seems it’s referring to people who have spent most of their lives living in the USA after being born in the USA which lines up with former slaves not some anchor baby dumped over the border by some breeding cow from China.


6 posted on 04/01/2026 6:56:05 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: Lurker

It depends how much Roberts is paid off.


7 posted on 04/01/2026 6:57:55 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: CFW

Fingers crossed, but expecting them to cower and rule 6-3 for invaders.


8 posted on 04/01/2026 6:58:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
It depends how much Roberts is paid off

Or blackmailed.

9 posted on 04/01/2026 6:58:35 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Yep, I don’t trust that punk as far as I can throw him. I think he’s worse than Jackson and Sotomayor. This is the guy who made the most unconstitutional ruling in US history, that the US government could force the people to buy a companies product (Obamacare) or punish them.


10 posted on 04/01/2026 7:04:02 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: CFW

It should be retroactive going back two generations.


11 posted on 04/01/2026 7:05:09 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Wake up, smell the cat food in your bank account. )
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To: AuntB

Exactly correct.


12 posted on 04/01/2026 7:06:32 AM PDT by piytar (NEVER FORGET Ashli Babbitt, Rosanne Boyland, Corey Comperatore, Iryna Zarutska, and Charlie Kirk!)
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To: Lurker

Nope...a 9-0 NOT in favor of Trump...


13 posted on 04/01/2026 7:09:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jeff Chandler

No one will convince me that Robers is not a puppet to influences monetary and blackmail related. Information on close friends and associations suggests he is also politically aligned with forces inimical to America as created & envisioned.


14 posted on 04/01/2026 7:10:18 AM PDT by JayGalt (If you give into blackmail, the blackmail never stops)
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To: CFW

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

Many babies of PRC moms never reside in any state. Mere popping out in the USA is insufficient.

The “and” is important. It means that the clause is merely retroactive as of the date of ratification.

born - past tense

naturalized - past tense

are - present (time of ratification [1868]) tense

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Shall is normally used in the Constitution for the future tense.

Amendment X uses “are reserved”.

Reserve means “to keep back or save for future or special use”

The citizenship clause is at most a one-time (1868) grant.

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The fact that the writers didn’t use the oft used Constitutional word “shall” matters. It was the obvious choice. It would have accomplished what they undoubtedly intended.

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Also consider the citizenship of babies born in the USA with parents having citizenship from the country of India.

The babies can get Indian citizenship upon application, but they are not born with it.

Why does India have such a system? Probably so that babies of citizens of India don’t run afoul of the complete jurisdiction requirement.

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“If birth in the US alone would constitute US citizenship (particularly following Wong Kim Ark of 1898), then there would have been no need for the Indian Citizenship Act (Snyder Act) of 1924.”

It would be silly to say that a baby of Mexican Apaches if popped out in hospital room in El Paso would be an American citizen under Amendment XIV but a baby of American Apaches if popped out in the adjoining hospital room would not.


15 posted on 04/01/2026 7:15:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

https://x.com/i/status/2039342686793052430


16 posted on 04/01/2026 7:18:27 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs.)
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To: fatima

Links not working for me.


17 posted on 04/01/2026 7:20:37 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs.)
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To: fatima
This link should work.
18 posted on 04/01/2026 7:21:57 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: CFW

I too believe it’s the most important SCOTUS decision of my life.

I also give it 50-50, I do not trust Kavanaugh, Roberts or especially Coney-Barrett to do the right thing.

Trump himself is appearing before SCOTUS today, it’s that important:

Fox News:

“President Trump says he’s going to Supreme Court Wednesday for expected birthright citizenship arguments.”


19 posted on 04/01/2026 7:23:12 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Bon of Babble

Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett tend to disappoint me. I’m afraid neither of them are going to be willing to disrupt the status quo.


20 posted on 04/01/2026 7:25:31 AM PDT by CFW
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