Posted on 12/08/2025 4:32:41 AM PST by Words Matter
Qatar, Turkey trying to dissuade Hamas from disarming, as Phase II of ceasefire still under discussion. Alternatives proposed would see Hamas give up its weapons to the Palestinian Authority or transferred them to a secure storage under oversight, which could preserve Hamas' influence in Gaza; this is likely to be the main issue discussed at the Trump-Netanyahu meeting in Florida
The second phase of the Gaza ceasefire plan is still being shaped by the Americans, though nothing has been finalized. Israel and the U.S. jointly drafted the original 20‑point plan, which included a clear agreement that Hamas must be disarmed. But now Jerusalem warns that Qatar and Turkey — nations that helped negotiate the recent hostage‑release deal — are pushing to shield Hamas from disarmament.
According to Israeli officials, Qatar and Turkey are now working to extract Hamas from the requirement to disarm. They are reportedly offering alternatives: either Hamas gives up its weapons to the Palestinian Authority (PA), or the weapons are transferred to some kind of secure storage under oversight. Behind both proposals lies the aim of preserving Hamas’ influence in Gaza. Israel insists, however, that Hamas must remain weapon‑free.
Better question... Why is Turkey in NATO?
The Economist claimed there might be 7,000 tons of unexploded Israeli bombs in Gaza as I recollect.
Gun control won’t work in Gaza either.
Turkey is in NATO to provide coverage of the Russian Flank
Beats me. With Islamist radical dictator Erdogan there.
Raises a lot of questions’: Qatar has spent nearly $100B in the U.S. to gain influence, report suggests NBC Tue, May 27, 2025 https://www.yahoo.com/news/raises-lot-questions-qatar-spent-134656841.html https://archive.ph/bM6fz
“The Economist claimed there might be 7,000 tons of unexploded Israeli bombs in Gaza...”
Is there a way to detonate them simultaneously, that would help a lot.
It would be nice if they were in mobile phones.
Turkey is in NATO to provide coverage of the Russian Flank
Once Russia is neutralized Turkey will turn against us.
Maybe they can get Tucker Carlson to negotiate on their behalf. He is getting a house in Qatar, so he could just pop in on the negotiations.
Watar and Turkey:
OH PLEASE Hamas, don’t disarm!
Hamas:
Stand back! We must disarm! We want to disarm!
What feces.
Of course Hamas should be disarmed. The only question is whether they be cauterized or left to bleed out.
Pager 2.0
Blood that reaches up to the horse’s bridles comes to mind.
Israel can always destroy the remaining 15% of the buildings that remain standing.
Just let us know!
Yes, there is, with American technology . But, not with israeli limited know-how.
Presently, Turkey is broke and relatively irrelevant.
In the early 1930s Germany was broke too. I am not saying it will happen with Erdogan, it might be another 10-20 years.
Erdogan is in my view the problem that has seriously injured Turkey. Prior to his gross incompetence, Turkey was a a fairly prosperous nation.
Mostly I think, he is just ignored as inconsequential
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