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Hegseth in hot water over boat strike order
The Hill ^ | 12/01/25 7:11 AM ET | by Jared Gans and Jonathan Carter

Posted on 12/01/2025 4:38:42 AM PST by RandFan

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is facing bipartisan scrutiny over his reported order to strike a boat in the Caribbean a second time, killing two survivors who were clinging to the ship’s wreckage on Sept. 2.

The Washington Post reported Friday that Hegseth issued an order to “kill everybody” after the initial strike, the first of what is now more than 20 such attacks, did not immediately kill all 11 of the people on board the vessel, leading the Special Operations commander overseeing the attack to order a second strike.

Some Democrats and a senior Republican said Sunday the strike was a possible war crime. The GOP chairs of the House and Senate armed services committees are promising “vigorous oversight” of the incident.

“We take seriously the reports of follow-on strikes on boats alleged to be ferrying narcotics in the SOUTHCOM region and are taking bipartisan action to gather a full accounting of the operation in question,” Reps. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), the chair of the House committee, and Adam Smith (D-Wash.) said in their statement.

“The Committee has directed inquiries to the Department, and we will be conducting vigorous oversight to determine the facts related to the circumstances,” said Sens. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), the Senate committee chair, and Jack Reed (D-R.I.) said.

Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio), a former chair of the House Intelligence Committee, agreed with Democratic Sens. Chris Van Hollen (Md.) and Mark Kelly (Ariz.), who said the strike against defenseless individuals appeared illegal.

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Not on FR from last nights mega-thread anyway where there was a lot of support for this.

Are you sure we're not out of step with public opinion on this one?

1 posted on 12/01/2025 4:38:42 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

No different than what FDR, Truman and Eisenhower did...................


2 posted on 12/01/2025 4:41:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: RandFan

They have got Hegseth now. Please, another fake scandal to go with the others.


3 posted on 12/01/2025 4:43:14 AM PST by hotsteppa
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To: RandFan

The problem is he said it out loud.

They could have been blowing up these boats and no one would have known, except the cartels and the folks on the boats.

This is what happens when you treat shit like a reality show instead of a war.


4 posted on 12/01/2025 4:43:15 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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Congress always on top of these important issues that no one in America cares about.


5 posted on 12/01/2025 4:44:48 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: RandFan
“Hot water”?
From who?
Van Hallen and Kelly?
Don't make me laugh.
6 posted on 12/01/2025 4:45:19 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: RandFan

NO...


7 posted on 12/01/2025 4:45:53 AM PST by Russ (I )
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To: RandFan

I am under the impression that the whole laws of war thing does not kick in unless both parties have signed the applicable treaties. I am assuming that the drug cartels have not signed the Geneva convention. Do we really have one hand tied behind our back even when the other side does not reciprocate?


8 posted on 12/01/2025 4:47:09 AM PST by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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To: hotsteppa
“They have got Hegseth now.”

They don't.

9 posted on 12/01/2025 4:48:07 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: RandFan
Are you sure we're not out of step with public opinion

You are an op.

Name one moment in FR history where "we" at FR gave a rat's rear end about "public opinion" or being "out of step" with it.

10 posted on 12/01/2025 4:53:10 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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Are you sure we're not out of step with public opinion on this one?

Dont care. The military kills those, outside our borders, who attack us or attempt to damage our country. That is their job. Keep on.

11 posted on 12/01/2025 4:55:41 AM PST by Blennos (This is the official Blennos tagline. Thanks to Big Red Badger. )
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To: RandFan

Check out the authors of this piece.

Snort.


12 posted on 12/01/2025 4:58:01 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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To: Red Badger

It’s a fake story.

The military-industrial profiteers have great support from their paid lackeys on both sides of the isle, almost as bad as drug companies.

They hate Hedgeseth because he is a threat to their boondoogles.

This is just BS from them trying to get traction that their purchased representatives.


13 posted on 12/01/2025 4:58:15 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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Most Americans don’t give a rats bazoo about a bunch of cartel drug runners. Good riddance.


14 posted on 12/01/2025 5:01:43 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Is the media attempting to portray this as an example of an “illegal order”?


15 posted on 12/01/2025 5:03:44 AM PST by Z28.310 (Overthinkers Annonymous suggestion; "Do not comply with others". ..especially NPD/BPD's)
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:: Hegseth is facing bipartisan scrutiny over his reported order to strike a boat in the Caribbean a second time ::

his reported order ... reported by whom?
What is their responsibility and authority in the actions taken that they know so much?
This appears to be a lie made from whole cloth by the Media.
Akin to the ‘suckers and losers’ kerfuffle.


16 posted on 12/01/2025 5:03:49 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (The Democrats' official policy is now, “Hate, Violence and Murder". Change my mind.)
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To: RandFan

“the first of what is now more than 20 such attacks, did not immediately kill all 11 of the people on board the vessel”

Hoping for better luck next time.


17 posted on 12/01/2025 5:05:15 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ( "Trouble knocked at the door, but, hearing laughter, hurried away". - B. Franklin)
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To: RandFan

Gfy. Hegseth should dispatch you next.


18 posted on 12/01/2025 5:05:52 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: RandFan

Special Forces do a lot of shady stuff; when one is put in charge they just put on display the things they were doing before when the sun wasn’t shining so bright. I think it’s a really bad idea to brand people terrorist and assume that gives you the right to target civilian boats in foreign and international waters for violations of law (smuggling) that only apply in the US territory.


19 posted on 12/01/2025 5:06:05 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (Lupus urbem intravit. Fulminis ictu vultures super turrem exanimat.)
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To: RandFan

Democrat talking point on all the nets. “If true, it bad”...so you frame the discussion by allegating it without any basis of fact. Thank you communists. We have seen it a million times.


20 posted on 12/01/2025 5:11:01 AM PST by silent majority rising ( United Israel - Judea, Samaria, and Gaza - US get out of the UN-we are not United with them.)
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