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Trump administration faced deeply skeptical Supreme Court in tariff arguments
CNN ^ | 11/05/2025 | John Fritze, Elisabeth Buchwald, Devan Cole and Holmes Lybrand

Posted on 11/05/2025 8:52:52 PM PST by SeekAndFind

In the most significant economic case to reach the Supreme Court in years, Trump’s authority to issue emergency tariffs faced deep skepticism from key conservatives — including Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh.

• While justices had tough questions for both sides, a majority expressed reservations about the administration relying on declared emergencies to issue the unchecked tariffs.

• As plaintiffs presented their case, Kavanaugh repeatedly noted that courts had previously allowed then-President Richard Nixon to use similar emergency powers to impose tariffs during his administration.

• Both sides previously framed the appeal in existential terms, with Trump warning that a ruling against him could have “catastrophic” consequences for the nation’s economic health. The companies challenging the policy say the on-again-off-again tariff announcements have driven costs — and uncertainty — to intolerable levels.

Former Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said Wednesday he expected “a split decision” from the Supreme Court on whether President Donald overstepped his authority in implementing global tariffs.

The main arguments made by those challenging the tariffs were that “tariffs… are equivalent to a tax but taxing authority is reserved to Congress,” and that emergency powers allow for license fees to be imposed, “which also could be construed as a tax,” Ross told CNN after arguments ended.

“I would be extremely surprised if the Court would rely on such nit-picking to create chaos in international trade and the securities markets,” Ross said, “especially since in most cases the other country has agreed to pay them and to lower the tariffs on our exports to them.”

“My guess is that it will be a split decision that, at most, will knock out a few of the specific ones,” Ross said.

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1 posted on 11/05/2025 8:52:52 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

CNN all the spin all the time. Other sources including Bessent paint a positive picture.


2 posted on 11/05/2025 9:14:22 PM PST by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: JayGalt

I was just reading about this my different site. It doesn’t look good for Trump.


3 posted on 11/05/2025 9:27:28 PM PST by roving
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To: SeekAndFind

They should be “deeply skeptical.” You can’t have presidents waking up with the willy-nilly tariff of day

One for India, cuz Ukraine, and one for Canada, cuz A TV COMMERCIAL.

A dem prez will do the same for Poland not opening its borders, or Hungary for defying the EU.

I actually like *most of what Trump has done, but the methods are blatantly unconstitutional, and sometimes wreckless.


4 posted on 11/05/2025 9:33:34 PM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: JayGalt

Hmmm no looks bad for old Trump...I heard the arguments as the SCOTUS justices defined these tariffs as a tax on Americans, big no-no.


5 posted on 11/05/2025 9:35:57 PM PST by dpetty121263
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To: AAABEST

OK, if Trump loses in the Supreme Court, we can kiss all the tariff revenues that his administration has accumulated goodbye. The money ( about $750 Billion ) would have to be REFUNDED.

Goodbye to all the plans of using the money to pay off our accumulated debts or other nice ideas.


6 posted on 11/05/2025 9:36:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: AAABEST
They should be “deeply skeptical.” You can’t have presidents waking up with the willy-nilly tariff of day One for India, cuz Ukraine, and one for Canada, cuz A TV COMMERCIAL.

Tariffs based upon hissy fits is not conservative economic policy.

7 posted on 11/05/2025 9:57:18 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

there are supposedly other congressional acts/regulations applying to tariffs that could be used by Prez if this doesn’t survive constitutional scrutiny. i would like to know what Plan B is and also whose legal advice pointed POTUS in this direction.


8 posted on 11/06/2025 12:19:55 AM PST by avital2
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To: dpetty121263; roving

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76zXT7gs2xQ
Interview with Bessent


9 posted on 11/06/2025 12:20:49 AM PST by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I predict that SCOTUS will rule that President Trump's "arbitrary" tariffs like the one on Canada for airing a critical commercial during the World Series and the one on Brazil for putting their former President on trial are beyond the authority of the president, but...

I predict that SCOTUS will rule that Trump's negotiated tariffs that are a part of bilateral multi-point trade deals will be allowed under the foreign affairs power of the executive, because theses were mutually-negotiated deals that were signed by heads of state.

SCOTUS will rule that the foreign countries knew what they were doing, that mutual tariffs were a negotiated element of the trade deal, but not the entire trade deal, and that unwinding trade agreements between heads of state is beyond the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court cannot rule that a foreign country ignore the American tariffs that are a part of their trade deal.

This way, SCOTUS will "split the baby" and let the trade deals with tariff components stand, but President Trump can no longer arbitrarily declare a retaliatory tariff on another country.

-PJ

10 posted on 11/06/2025 12:37:47 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: SeekAndFind

With the fact the USSC is to decide the case, obviously they need to ask questions about it.


11 posted on 11/06/2025 1:01:24 AM PST by b4me (Pray, and let God change you. He knows better than you or anyone else, who He made you to be.)
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To: thegagline

Nobody in this situation has standing to sue the executive branch for a violation of COTUS.

U.S. taxpayers have no standing because they are not directly paying the tariffs.

The U.S. Congress has no standing because its taxing authority is not being infringed.

Foreign governments don’t have standing under the U.S. Constitution to sue the federal executive branch for supposedly illegally taxing them because it’s a tariff, not a tax.


12 posted on 11/06/2025 1:17:54 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Political Junkie Too

I agree with you. That’s in general how Roberts operates.


13 posted on 11/06/2025 2:15:04 AM PST by paudio (Charlie Kirk is this era's MLK)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thank you for your post.


14 posted on 11/06/2025 3:21:30 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I see the low intellect keyword spammers are back. What cowards - can’t argue the point.


15 posted on 11/06/2025 3:27:56 AM PST by Fury
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To: SeekAndFind
Listened a bit to Dershowitz...I like what he said..."Tariffs are tariffs and taxes are taxes".

Also lotsa talk of other ways for Trump to get these tariffs done....AND.....that this decision will not effect ALL existing tariffs.

We're seeing agreements between Heads of States...how are they taxes??

16 posted on 11/06/2025 3:37:36 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: one guy in new jersey

Tariffs are paid by importers, many of them small businesses. A group of independent business owners, together with the attorney generals from several blue states, are the plaintiffs in this case


17 posted on 11/06/2025 3:40:19 AM PST by hcmama
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To: Sacajaweau

Remember SCOTUS’s Obamacare decision...?

This isn’t about the Constitution.


18 posted on 11/06/2025 3:47:13 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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To: mewzilla
Yes...

The penalty...Except I agree with Roberts and the other 4 justices that the penalty is a tax. I can't see where it can be anything else. It goes into the tax coffers.

19 posted on 11/06/2025 4:08:07 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

Court rules against 47’s tariffs, US and Global economies crash.


20 posted on 11/06/2025 4:17:03 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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