Posted on 10/31/2025 4:16:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
White House officials, at the start of the shutdown, were certain the Trump administration was better positioned to battle the left during a funding lapse.
In early October, several Trump administration officials had a friendly pool going of how long the shutdown would last. The White House, at the time, was confident Democrats would quickly fold.
No one guessed more than 10 days.
The account, relayed by a person close to the White House granted anonymity to discuss internal thinking, underscores just how much the administration miscalculated the Democrats’ will to keep the government closed even amid furloughs and imperiled social programs like food assistance.
As the shutdown heads into its second month, President Donald Trump is increasingly frustrated. On Thursday, he called for Republicans to abolish the filibuster to reopen the government — a plea he knows is futile, but that demonstrates his growing irritation with Democrats, said a second person close to the White House.
“Trump, he’s had it with these people, because he knows they’re playing politics,” said the second person. “Nobody thought it was going to last this long.”
When the shutdown began, White House officials were certain the Trump administration was better positioned to battle the left during a funding lapse.
Trump and his top aides thought that unpaid federal workers, closed and limited federal facilities and threats of ever-more job cuts from Russ Vought, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, would be too much for Democrats to handle.
They were buoyed when two moderate Democrats — Sens. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) and John Fetterman (D-Pa.) — and Independent Angus King voted with Republicans two days into the shutdown.
But not much has changed since, and it is almost certain that this will be the longest shutdown in history, surpassing the record set...
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Well the democrats keep voting for a shutdown so they don’t care , don’t give in
The world hasn’t ended, what does that tell you? Calvin Coolidge was right about government.
Nothing to brag about, imo.
Stay the course! The Dems will eventually fold. It’s their base who’s “hardest hit.” Let’s not go back to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
How many people have been laid off from government jobs?
“Democrat’s will” my aching a$$ - totally a political power play in a vain attempt to regain relevance. With small side action between AOC & Schmucky for traction in the next election.
😂
This is what AI has to say about what I am talking about:
If the government shutdown lasts 41 days, President Donald Trump can continue leveraging the situation to reshape the federal government, as he has indicated a willingness to use the shutdown to implement permanent changes rather than simply restore operations once funding is restored.
Specifically, Trump has threatened to permanently lay off federal workers deemed "non-essential," a move that breaks from past practice where furloughed employees typically received back pay after shutdowns ended.
On 30 September 2025, he stated, "We'll be laying off a lot of people," and later suggested that some workers "don't deserve to be taken care of" when asked about back pay.
The administration has already initiated reduction-in-force (RIF) plans across departments such as Health, Homeland Security, and Commerce, with the Office of Management and Budget confirming that federal layoffs have begun.
Although a federal judge temporarily blocked an earlier attempt to lay off about 4,000 workers, the White House is appealing the ruling, signaling an intent to continue these efforts.
Additionally, Trump can maintain control over which government functions continue during the shutdown, prioritizing activities deemed essential under the Antideficiency Act, such as national security, law enforcement, and certain public health operations.
He may also redirect administrative focus to freeze spending on programs he opposes, such as green-energy initiatives and what he calls "blue-state pork," effectively halting these projects indefinitely.
However, Trump cannot unilaterally end the shutdown; only Congress can pass appropriations bills, which he would then need to sign into law.
Conversely, he retains the power to reject any compromise that does not align with his demands, such as reversing Medicaid cuts or preserving health insurance subsidies, which are central points of contention with Democrats.
As of 31 October 2025, the 34th day of the shutdown, a federal judge in Rhode Island has ordered the administration to continue funding SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) benefits for November, ruling that suspending them would cause irreparable harm. (I believe that AI is incorrect with this statement, for the shiutdown officially began on 1 ninute after midnight on October 1, 2025. Thus the number of days will be 31 as of 12:01 A.m. November 1, 2025 tomorrow morning, while 41 days will occur at 1 minute after midnight on Tuesday November 11, 2025)
If the shutdown continues, legal challenges like this may further constrain or define the limits of executive action.
The future of the PPACA is up in the air.
12 million pre-Biden Takers - average risk $500/month/person
12 million Biden-era Newbys - average risk $50/month/person
you get
24 million Recipients - average risk $275/month/person
Unless the Newbys are retained by paying almost all their premiums, the Newbys will bow out and the risk per person and the premiums per covered person will almost double.
The insurance companies have to set their premiums for November marketing and they need to know what the average risk per person per age group is going to be real soon.
Would you, Mr. Healthy, like health insurance for less than $10/month?
The answer is probably going to be yes, even if the health insurance is junk.
Would you, Mr. Healthy, like health insurance for less than $100/month?
The answer might well be no. Mr. Healthy is very unlikely to benefit from health insurance, but he will get zapped with late fees if he doesn’t pay his bills. He will very likely get evicted if he falls behind on his rent.
“No money shall be drawn from the treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law”
“emergency...a sudden, urgent, unforeseen occurrence requiring immediate action”
DJT obviously lacks experience with driving donkey carts.
I remember the scene from “Patton” well.
It takes about two weeks for a person to starve I believe.
Running out of water is far more dangerous.
Don’t ask me how long it takes a Ghettopotamus to starve.
It's from Politico, so, y'know, ********.
Stand firm!!!
Republicans NEED TO HANG THIS AROUND THE DEMORATS NECKS!!!
Every tv camera pointing towards a Republican should be followed by how demorats are voting to keep govt closed, and hurting the people cause illegals need healthcare!
Some are saying after the election before the Democrat shutdown stops.
I hadn’t noticed.
Please correct my conclusions here. For Senator Schumer to get what he wants, A dozen Republicans or so would have to vote with all Democrats on their bill. Then, while the government is still closed down, the bill would go back to the house to try to get a majority vote.... This would take days, even weeks, or never?
“...Don’t ask me how long it takes a Ghettopotamus to starve....”
Wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to find em foraging around in our pantries....
THAT would kinda make things quite dicey as not everyone has a front end loader or a backhoe.
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