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Posted on 07/11/2025 7:33:59 PM PDT by janetjanet998
CNN — A federal judge on Friday found that the Department of Homeland Security has been making arrests in Los Angeles immigration raids without probable cause and ordered the department to stop detaining individuals based solely on race, spoken language or occupation.
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>> You are not smart. Besides being wrong.
In other words, “Shut up!”, you say...?
ROFL. Yeah, one of you is not smart, and wrong — and it’s not E.P.U.
You’re just not sophisticated in these matters. You say “probable cause” when you actually mean “reasonable suspicion.” Those are two VERY different things and you use them interchangeably. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
>> Someone simply being Hispanic in a Hispanic neighborhood
That’s nothing but a strawman you conjured up, “lol”. It’s not what I said, and it’s not what ICE is doing.
Not me. But the judge pretty much takes away even the ability to use probable cause with his restrictions when it is well known the majority of illegal immigrants are a certain ethnic background and are usually found in certain occupations. It seems that even investigating persons based on the above is no longer to be allowed. I could be wrong.
I guess DHS is going to have to require ICE or other agencies to request full employment records from businesses they are investigating to verify SS numbers or other proof of legal status (Any one working on a 1099 gets a free pass) if the numbers do not mesh than the DHS will have to petition a judge for a warrant for any individual who can not provide proper documents. Only then will there be a hearing before an immigration judge. No deportation will be allowed unless it can be proven the defendant’s race, ethnicity,language, or job was not a determining factor in deciding to investigate the employer.
Wait for it, in less than 5 years deportations will no longer be considered a legit government function and any attempt to restrict entry into the U.S. will be regarded as a violation of international law.
Never claimed it was.
Oh so you’re just unaware of the case. Allow me to clarify what happening. ICE has a warrant for a person. They find that person and have PC to arrest them. All well and good. But then, ICE detains other people in the vicinity with no reasonable suspicion of them committing any crime. That is not allowed. You cannot detain someone without reasonable suspicion. And you cannot arrest them without probable cause. You have no idea what you’re talking about. So STFU.
Yes, he literally said race, language, and location alone is reasonable suspicion. It is not.
Illegal means exactly that.
Let me explain to YOU what is ACTUALLY happening. ICE has a warrant for a person. While detaining them, they have reasonable suspicion that others in the facility are also illegal, so they investigate a little, perhaps ask for ID or discover that the HISPANIC present in the same place as the known illegal has NO id and speaks no english, so they arrest them, now having (and being able to articulate) probable cause to do so.
However a progressive marxist Afrojudge unilaterally DENIES them the ability to use legitimate, relevant FACTS like their race and their language (or lack thereof) to form reasonable suspicion.
>> You have no idea what you’re talking about. So STFU.
It seems that I actually DO have quite a good idea of what is going on.
Now, please explain to ME exactly what you mean by “STFU”. Go ahead, spell it out for me. Unless you don’t have the guts, which I’m betting is the case, because you’re an inebriated loser who is losing the argument and resorting to expletives ‘cause you got nuthin’ else.
“ Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong” WTF kind of name is that!?
My thoughts exactly.
Good luck.
That’s correct.
So they can no longer arrest people on the basis of “race, spoken language or occupation”. But they CAN still arrest them on suspicion of being in the country illegally.
Right?
Still gives an LEO a right to detain them, doesn’t it?
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone
The Immigration and Nationality Act, specifically section 287(a)(3), grants immigration officers the authority to board and search vehicles within a “reasonable distance” from the border. This distance is defined as 100 air miles by regulation.
Border Patrol uses both permanent and temporary checkpoints, as well as roving patrols, to enforce immigration laws within this zone.
While Border Patrol has expanded authority within the 100-mile zone, constitutional rights still apply. Individuals have the right to remain silent, refuse consent to searches, and cannot be detained or arrested without probable cause.
Reasonable Suspicion:
For a stop to be legal, Border Patrol agents must have reasonable suspicion of an immigration violation or crime, which is more than just a hunch.
Two-thirds of the U.S. population, or about 200 million people, reside within this expanded border region, according to the 2010 census. Most of the 10 largest cities in the U.S., such as New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago, fall in this region. Some states, like Florida, lie entirely within this border band so their entire populations are impacted.
Think Trump will obey? Is Trump a chicken? Just ask the Mullahs in Iran.
Nope. Ignore.
They re not solely based on race. They are based on being a person illegally in the country.
"Frimpong"
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