Posted on 05/29/2025 1:36:30 AM PDT by Libloather
General Motors is investing $888 million in its Tonawanda Propulsion plant in Buffalo, New York, "to support the production of the sixth generation of GM’s V-8 engines," the automaker announced Tuesday.
The investment is a shift from a previously announced $300 million commitment to make electric-vehicle drive units at the plant, as the V-8 engines are used in GM's full-sized trucks and SUVs.
GM says the newer engines will provide drivers better fuel economy and reduce emissions by utilizing "new combustion and thermal management innovations."
"Our significant investments in GM’s Tonawanda Propulsion plant show our commitment to strengthening American manufacturing and supporting jobs in the U.S.," Mary Barra, GM Chair and CEO, said in a statement.
"GM's Buffalo plant has been in operation for 87 years and is continuing to innovate the engines we build there to make them more fuel efficient and higher performing, which will help us deliver world-class trucks and SUVs to our customers for years to come," she concluded.
While the plant prepares to start production of the sixth generation V-8 engine in 2027, it will continue to produce fifth generation V-8 engines.
The move is likely another sign of automakers adapting to slower-than-expected market demand for EVs and comes after the Detroit automaker aggressively lobbied Congress to rescind California electric-vehicle rules.
New York Governor Kathy Hochul said the project will support 870 jobs at Tonawanda Propulsion, including 177 jobs deemed at risk, according to Reuters. The state plans to provide up to $16.96 million in tax credits in return for investment commitments.
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“ Bring back the 350”
I prefer the big blocks; 396, 427, 454.
Had some great fun leaving dual black marks with those posi-traction rear ends!
We would “ mark our territory” with those long bed trucks!! Good times!!
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The problem of upstate(anything north of Westchester county)is that they are outvoted by NYC and Long Island. Albany just does the bidding of the big money in the city. This is why they outlawed fracking for natural gas. Which would have become a boom for the economy in the Binghamton area. Which is one of the most depressed areas of NYS.
Right across the border in PA everyone is those counties are driving new pick up trucks and the economies are booming because of the natural gas.
The methane in the Marcellus Shale does not stop at the state line. In fact about a mile from where I grew up the methane actually leaked right out of the shale in a waterfall in Chestnut Ridge county park at a place called the Eternal Flame. When I was a kid it was known as gaslight falls.
This is just one example about how the liberals from NYC changed state law to ban fracking that would have greatly benefited people in the upstate region. They have been screwing the upstate people for a hundred years. Which is why even back in the 1960s/70s everyone in upstate wanted to be separated from NYC/long Island.
some examples: At its peak during World War II, General Electric (GE) employed approximately 45,000 people in Schenectady, NY. This figure represents a significant workforce that played a vital role in Schenectady's economy and industrial landscape at the time. The company's presence had a lasting impact on the city, transforming it into an important hub for manufacturing and innovation, particularly in the field of electricity.
Eastman Kodak's peak employment in the Rochester, New York area was around 60,400 in 1982. By 2016, after a period of decline, Kodak employed approximately 1,600 people in the same area. The company's headquarters are still located in Rochester, New York.
IBM: With roots in the Binghamton area, IBM grew to be a global technology giant and a substantial employer in New York.
Endicott-Johnson: A major shoe manufacturer based in the Binghamton area, employing thousands.
Xerox: Another Rochester-based company, Xerox became a leader in document technology and a major employer.
Mostly just remnants left.
When I was at SU(84-85) I worked in events production at the CARRIER Dome. Carrier was the biggest employer in Syracuse.
I heard they moved most of their AC unit production to Ol Mexico. The SU area is now called something else.
I still have a very good long term lumber yard customer in Rochester. Xerox, Kodak and Busch & Lomb were the big three there. Now, the largest employer are colleges.
It's a growth industry, boarding up houses :(
Basically, all the globalist politicians sold out the middle class all across the US to the corporations who paid them to create NAFTA and let China into the WTO.
I believe you are correct.
The Golden Years! Corny as hell movie..real life wasn’t...but nice look at classic cars when they were new.
Thanks.
Yes, exactly.
NYS should be split between NYC and environs and the rest of the state. Upstate is totally different, geographically far from NYC, different people, different country.
Chrysler slant 6 and my all-time favorite dependable Mopar engine, the venerable 318 with the 2 bbl carb and nothing else fancy.
My 68 coronet, 70 charger and 76 Plymouth all had them, not a single one ever gave me a single problem, and never once left me stranded.
The shift tube on the 3 on the tree though, that POS was an entirely different story on my 76 Fury 4 door, I had 1st and 3rd, drove it that way for months when I was in school. Knew every turn around and forward access parking spot in the city I think.
Every time GM makes a new engine then things only get worse. It is stupidity when decade ago they had great engines like the 3.8 engine. just bring them back.
We’ve had 5 Traverse with no problems. Silverado’s however are a different story. GM wouldn’t cover the engine replacement in my truck even though I’d been to the dealership for the same issue prior to the expiration of the warranty. So I ended up shelling out over 8k for the engine parts, DOD delete and a tune afterwards. I kept the destroyed camshaft to remind me to not get another GM work truck. The AFM screws up these engines prematurely and the owners are the ones getting the shaft, pun intended.
The discount is attractive but when you have to factor in huge repair costs, not so much. I can’t imagine what people would do if they still have loans on their vehicles when that stuff happens.
My comment wasn’t based on the high hourly amount for union workers. I would think the state of NY takes their cut as well which being one of the most expensive states to do business in, means higher cost for those vehicles and parts built in that state.
No, the problem was largely caused because GM switched to 0W20 oil in an effort to improve fuel efficiency.
That coupled with the low volume/pressure oiling system (also intended to increase efficiency meant the bearings were not adequately protected in high load, low rpm situations.
If the bearings are not damaged yet the recall is switching to 40 weight oil.
While it is also true that the Mexican crankshaft supplier was not meeting specs for the journals, it wasn’t a problem until they tried to get away with the thinnest oil possible.
And honestly, either scenario is possible.
Western/central NYS is more like the midwest than east coast
I have been advised against buying ANY engine with the AFM system. especially used vehicles.
It’s not just the mechanical, it’s also the computers/electronics which control the mechanical. Fuel injection, valve control, timing all controlled by the computer and have to open/close/move a valve or an actuator for each cylinder at least a thousand times a second. The computer intakes data from a plethora of sensors at about the same speed.
These 6th generation engines are going to be even more complex and computer controlled.
The more complex, the more there is to go wrong.
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