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The Economy Just Shrank. Are We In A Recession?
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Posted on 04/30/2025 7:34:39 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

The U.S. economy contracted in the first quarter, raising the question: Are we in a recession? Economic growth, as measured by the Gross Domestic Product, has to be negative for more than one quarter for a recession, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, the nonprofit research group that officially calls recessions. According to the NBER: "A recession involves a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and lasts more than a few months."

The NBER has not yet declared a recession. The current downturn also hasn't met an unofficial definition of recession, which is two consecutive quarters of negative growth. However, economists' comments on Wednesday's GDP figures were full of speculation about a possible recession ahead.

Is a Recession Ahead? Wednesday's report was a stark contrast to the beginning of the year, when the economy grew steadily with no end to the expansion in sight. Since then, President Donald Trump's tariffs have shaken up financial markets, squashed consumer confidence, and raised the possibility of a serious economic downturn ahead.

While the NBER hasn't declared a recession, it doesn't necessarily mean we aren't at the beginning of one. The bureau only calls recessions months after the fact, when backward-looking data indicates one has begun.

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Uncertain times ahead. Let's be vigilant.
1 posted on 04/30/2025 7:34:39 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

Has nothing to do with Trump. It was Biden’s hangover in the 1st quarter. Trump didn’t take over until late Jan. It’s a minor blip anyway.


2 posted on 04/30/2025 7:38:00 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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My doctor told me shrinkage just comes with age.


3 posted on 04/30/2025 7:38:59 PM PDT by BipolarBob (AA told me to quit hanging around drunks. So I quit going to AA, cuz that's where they were.)
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To: USA-FRANCE
I am not a GDP expert (although I am a CPA with an MBA in Finance), but it seems to me that part of the measurement of the size of the economy includes government spending. During the Biden administration, that was often a part of the growth - money shoveled out into the so-called private sector and funding for supporting the war in Ukraine kind of boosted the GDP.

Now President Trump comes in and they begin cutting billions in wasteful government spending and holding off on aid to Ukraine. Is there an expert out there who can tell me if I am right?

4 posted on 04/30/2025 7:41:35 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: USA-FRANCE

1st Quarter is Jan/Feb/March.

It would take two quarters in a row to signal a recession thogh hopefully we aren’t in one now.


5 posted on 04/30/2025 7:41:55 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: USA-FRANCE

My economy shrank during Braindeads “administration “ due to massive inflation.


6 posted on 04/30/2025 7:42:47 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

We never even came out of the 2007-8 mess. Everything has been going down the drain for years now.


7 posted on 04/30/2025 7:46:40 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Hi

Government spending for the last 4 quarters has been 25% of GDP.

With printed money (i.e. no increase in productivity).

I wouldn’t be surprised if the second quarter is slightly negative (-.02%).

5.56mm


8 posted on 04/30/2025 7:46:50 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Democrats: Not self aware, hypocrites, lacking morals who believe history begins when they wake up)
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To: USA-FRANCE

9 posted on 04/30/2025 7:48:26 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: BruceS

In contrast to what I gave OP, you get the Gold Star!


10 posted on 04/30/2025 7:49:24 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: USA-FRANCE

There were periods during the Biden days when the US economy met the textbook definition of a recession. Naturally, the Biden administration denied there ever was a recession.


11 posted on 04/30/2025 7:51:40 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: USA-FRANCE
In a word nope, and here is why.
12 posted on 04/30/2025 7:54:37 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: USA-FRANCE

I read about a budget that ends up at 50t.


13 posted on 04/30/2025 7:55:15 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: BruceS

Trump has cut off the Democrat patronage, fraud and corruption machine which has grown to become such a huge part of the governments budget that cuts have a significant macro economic impact


14 posted on 04/30/2025 7:59:48 PM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: HYPOCRACY

Your comment was exactly what Trump said. It is Biden’s parting blunders. It takes several months of a new administration to be the cause of the negative growth. Trump knows.


15 posted on 04/30/2025 8:02:06 PM PDT by healy61
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To: USA-FRANCE

An endless parade of “Trump bad” propaganda with people standing by, willing to immediately post it! “We’re doom”.....”What will happen to us” We’ll starve to death”...


16 posted on 04/30/2025 8:04:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: USA-FRANCE

The private sector expanded, the govt sector contracted more, thanks to DOGE.


17 posted on 04/30/2025 8:08:26 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: BruceS

Is there an expert out there who can tell me if I am right?
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The expert is the definition.

GDP = (C)onsumption + (G)overnment Spending + (I)nvestment +
(Exports - Imports)

That’s the equation. People will fall all over themselves to say this should not be or that should not be, but that’s the equation and that’s how it is measured.

The big surge in imports to front run tariffs, as one can see in the equation, will reduce GDP and did so. A reduction in G will too, but it is really small potatoes in that 121,000 probationary employees were erased and since they are probationary and new, call it $64K/yr salary and benefits. For just the quarter, it’s only a couple of billion, out of $20Trillion of GDP.

The import surge was more compelling, and of course that is going to 100% reverse next quarter as tariffs discourage imports.

(FYI sportsfans, interest on the national debt is part of G. So if interest rates rise, that, in bizarre fashion, adds to GDP)


18 posted on 04/30/2025 8:11:05 PM PDT by Owen
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To: dragnet2

An endless parade of “Trump bad” propaganda with people standing by, willing to immediately post it! “We’re doom”.....”What will happen to us” We’ll starve to death”...

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Unless massive economic pain happens, most of this noise will fall on deaf ears.

“There they go again” will be the response from people sick of the crap media they’ve read their whole lifetime.


19 posted on 04/30/2025 8:14:52 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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To: HYPOCRACY

US companies surged their import buying in anticipation of tariffs as they transition to domestic manufacturing increase and locating domestic suppliers. This surge is subtracted from GDP. Smart. Economy still solid. Inflation way down.


20 posted on 04/30/2025 8:17:36 PM PDT by Az Joe (uired to.)
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