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Trump's hostility toward Ukraine creates a conservative rift
NBC News ^ | Feb 21, 2025 | Peter Nicholas

Posted on 02/21/2025 7:43:03 PM PST by McGruff

Nikki Haley, who served as United Nations ambassador in Trump’s first term and later challenged him for the 2024 GOP nomination, admonished Trump in a social media post: “These are classic Russian talking points. Exactly what Putin wants.”

Another figure from Trump’s first term joined Haley in her condemnation.

“Mr. President, Ukraine did not ‘start’ this war,” Trump’s former vice president, Mike Pence, wrote on X. “Russia launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion claiming hundreds of thousands of lives.”

Blowback also came from the Rupert Murdoch-owned New York Post, normally a Trump-friendly outlet. The tabloid’s cover on Friday featured a picture of a stone-faced Putin with the headline: “President Trump: This is a Dictator.”

Conservative commentators Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro also disputed Trump's historical rewrite this week.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 30pences; benshapiro; ciapropaganda; enemieslist; enemyjournalist; horsefeathers; marklenin; marklevin; mikepence; nbc; nbcfakenews; nbcsedition; nbctreason; newyorkpost; nikkihaley; notconservative; operationmockingbird; peternicholas; pulltheirfcclicense; rinorift; rinosedition; ukraine; ukrainepropaganda; zelenskyqs
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1 posted on 02/21/2025 7:43:03 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Nikki, you are NOT a conservative and you HAVE NO FUTURE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY… NONE!


2 posted on 02/21/2025 7:45:53 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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Z cost us a whole lot of money and the people of Ukraine a whole lot of pain, death and destruction.


3 posted on 02/21/2025 7:46:23 PM PST by BipolarBob (Before judging remember, we've all kicked a pregnant woman in the stomach before.)
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To: House Atreides

Neither does Pence.


4 posted on 02/21/2025 7:47:25 PM PST by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: House Atreides

Neither does Pence.


5 posted on 02/21/2025 7:47:26 PM PST by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: McGruff

Don’t know why Levin and Shapiro are so obsessed with Ukraine, maybe they have ancestral roots there.


6 posted on 02/21/2025 7:47:55 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: McGruff

WION | Gravitas Plus:

“Did NATO push Ukraine into war?

“On Gravitas Plus, Palki Sharma tells you how Western arrogance & NATO’s expansionism are also to blame, how their actions precipitated the crisis in Ukraine.”

https://youtu.be/TzgPJeYZaOU?feature=shared


7 posted on 02/21/2025 7:48:14 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: McGruff

My tagline explains the situation.
The “we want world war 3” crowd have nothing to offer and aren’t conservative, they’re liberals.
They were ecstatic to throw ever increasing amounts of money at this.


8 posted on 02/21/2025 7:49:20 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: McGruff

She is correct that Russia started the war, not Ukraine.


9 posted on 02/21/2025 7:50:40 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: McGruff
Pence and Haley need to pair up. Neither useful.
10 posted on 02/21/2025 7:51:03 PM PST by Bronzy (CNN Fake News )
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To: House Atreides

Lots of Nikki’s here on FR too!


11 posted on 02/21/2025 7:52:57 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: McGruff
Trump isn't hostile to Ukraine per se. His hostility is toward the woke globalists whose puppet Ukraine is.
12 posted on 02/21/2025 7:58:14 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: McGruff

False.

To quote President Trump: “I love Ukraine.”


13 posted on 02/21/2025 8:00:16 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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We have to have it where no countries have any troops on anyone’s borders, be it in Ukraine or in Mexico. If China/Russia said they were going to create a Central American Treaty Organization it would be a bad idea.

All countries need to pull away from this old way, washed-up empire kind of thinking as amassing members in alliances, etc, agitates others.

And the US/NATO under Obama/Biden attacked Libya though never proving Gaddafi was going to kill 10k of his own people, and did so on offense when NATO is a defensive charter, protects members, and Libya attacked no NATO members. But those who support Obama or Biden will find a way to make excuses for this.

Plus the US/NATO under Liz Cheney’s dad attacked Iraq, no WMDs were paraded before the world though thd US acted like they would easily produce the evidence. But those who support her dad will find a way to make excuses for NATO involvement in this though they cannot go on the offense and certainly not against a country who did not attack a NATO member. The same applies to Libya.

There’s other examples as well.

Point is, the world forgave the US/west and let it go so I think the US can forgive Russia as well and let it go, even if they are/were in the wrong


14 posted on 02/21/2025 8:00:56 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: McGruff

“Let’s you and him fight.”


15 posted on 02/21/2025 8:05:04 PM PST by Jeff Chandler
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To: McGruff

Mark Levin has always been a NeverTrumper but toned it down when his audience left.


16 posted on 02/21/2025 8:05:26 PM PST by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: rfp1234

Michael Savage
2/20/25

[A]t last! Mark “squeeky” Levin OUTS HIMSELF AS TRUMP HATER, WAR-MONGERING, DEEP STATE operative

https://x.com/ASavageNation/status/1892656714593214696


17 posted on 02/21/2025 8:05:43 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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No, it hasn’t caused a conservative rift. It has only picked the scab off of the Conservative - NeoCon Warmonger rift that has existed for years.


18 posted on 02/21/2025 8:09:37 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: McGruff

Lindsey Graham must be really pissed at Trump.


19 posted on 02/21/2025 8:11:42 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: McGruff

Nikki is no more MAGA conservative than hair in my armpit.


20 posted on 02/21/2025 8:12:49 PM PST by Bobbyvotes (I am in mid-80's and I am not gonna change my opinions.)
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