Posted on 02/15/2025 7:03:56 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher said that while Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s declaration that it’s not realistic for Ukraine to return to its pre-2014 borders “is just surrender” but “the problem is that I don’t know how it doesn’t end this way.”
Maher stated, “So, here’s what Pete Hegseth, our new Secretary of Defense said…he said, returning to Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective, which, to me, is just surrender. Then again, we can argue about whether that’s true or not. The United States does not believe, also, that NATO membership for Ukraine is realistic. And Trump said, it’s when Biden let them say, we’re going to want to join NATO, that’s when the trouble started. There’s some truth to that.”
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If they’re majority Russian let them be with their own. They’re better off with the EU but Ukraine is too corrupt.
God favors the side with the heaviest artillery...
Victor Davis Hanson: Ukraine, It’s Time to Make a Deal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzTheRD25M
The border will be the area which voted in the two referendums to return to Mother Russia.
Maybe billy ought to write some legislation?!
Who is surrendering Mr Maher?
Take another bong hit Maher, maybe you’ll feel better.
It’s always good to know what Maher thinks.
I will loan you an AR15m, Bill. Have at it.
It’s not his fault there was a “color revolution” which resulted in a coup d’etat that displaced an elected government. Was it?
Drones, 21st century warfare.
Duh.
Took how many years and lives ruined for you to wake up to a reality that was obvious from the moment Russia invaded?!?
Once Kiev repelled the initial invasion they should have immediately been pursuing peace.
Z is a clown, his inability to understand the most basic geopolitical realities of his own country and willing to listen to western leaders who fed him lies and used him make him the dumbest political leader in the western world
Perhaps, but I think that practical aspects of the collapse of the Soviet Union need to be resolved. The Ukraine is still full of nuclear reactors that, I expect, use Russian fuel rods and hardened underground weapons manufacturing, I suspect.
When the Ukraine is returned to farming, it won’t matter where the borders are.
Realistically, what other option has Ukraine ever had?
It Biden had done that, then Ukraine would be whole. In addition, there would be many people still alive.
But haters have to hate, to make money off of war, while indebting America's middle-class to pay for the cost of war, but enriches the super wealthy.
VDH seems as reasonable as possible on this - as usual. Thanks for the link.
“They’re better off with the EU but Ukraine is too corrupt.”
The ones in Ukraine who support Russia are likely against the Green New Deal, Grooming of their kids, and Mass Immigration.
...so, no, they’re better off with Russia as they won’t have to deal with that crap.
By the way, it’s something that more and more countries in the EU are realizing, now that the EU has pivoted from being a nice ‘common market’ with one currency, to an unelected dictatorship, best resembling the Soviet Union.
I agree with Maher on this one. Ukraine simply doesn’t have the power to push the Russians back across the 2014 borders. I accept that as reality.
I think Zelinski wants NATO and the U.S. to move in and push the Russians back. I think we could but that pushes us way closer to nuclear war than I’m willing to go.
Did they ever just ask the people who live in that eastern region what they would want?
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