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Clinton Remains Stock-Market Champ, With Trump Third And Biden Ninth
Forbes ^ | 12/30/2024 | John Dorfman

Posted on 01/05/2025 11:46:21 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

As of December 27, Joe Biden ranks ninth among U.S. presidents (post 1928) in stock-market performance. That’s not likely to change in the last few days of his term.

Bill Clinton remains the champion, with a 17.49% annual return for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Total Return Index during his presidency in January 1993 to January 2001. He managed to balance the federal budget (with help from the Internet boom), and to avoid major wars and recessions.

President-Elect Donald Trump, in his first term, saw the stock market return 15.95% per year. As he likes to point out, he was doing even better until the Covid-19 pandemic threw a wrench into the economy.

Trump ranks third in stock-market performance, behind Barack Obama at 16.25%, and ahead of Gerald Ford at 15.57%.

Under Biden, stocks have returned an average of 13.49% per year from January 20, 2021 through Dec. 27, 2024. That puts him comfortably ahead of tenth-place President Jimmy Carter (12.40%). But he is unlikely to catch up to eighth-place finisher George H.W. Bush who presided over a 14.71% return.

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Ronald Reagan seventh at 15.08%? That seems off. Or I am wrong?
1 posted on 01/05/2025 11:46:21 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

An obvious point?

Stock market upward surges after a Pubbie POTUS is elected should not be credited to the outgoing lame duck donkey party POTUS.


2 posted on 01/05/2025 12:03:23 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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Slick benefited from the dot.com boom and the end of the Cold War where defense spending was slashed.


3 posted on 01/05/2025 12:09:44 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Even with Reagan tripling federal spending during 8 years, the national debt stood at under $10 Trillion. Now with $26 Trillion additional debt, the rise in stocks simply reflects devaluation of dollar. Buying power of SPX500 is no higher now than in 1965.

Yes, prosperity blossoms with excessive spending, until the credit card is maxxed out. We are not far from reaching that.


4 posted on 01/05/2025 12:11:42 PM PST by Bobbyvotes (Congrats to Trump/Vance tea.m. America has been saved. For a while at least. )
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To: ealgeone

By percentages HILLARY is the Champ! She turned a speculative $10,000 into $100,000 in a blink of an eye. Sure, other DC denizens have made much more than that, but over a longer time period. (And this WASN’T Hillary’s only stock grift - she had others.)


5 posted on 01/05/2025 12:15:04 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: ealgeone

Boomers in prime earning years helped too, that basically balanced the budget itself. Of course end of Soviet Union had carry on effects too. ‘92 was a good year to take the reins.


6 posted on 01/05/2025 12:20:42 PM PST by teevolt
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Reagan came out of the worst financial time since the depression thanks to Jimmy and his rabbit.
It setup the USA for 10 years of financial gain.
Clinton just happened to be there when the .com boom hit.


7 posted on 01/05/2025 12:24:09 PM PST by Zathras
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Clinton was just lucky to ride the internet phenomena up..not because he was a genius,


8 posted on 01/05/2025 12:25:58 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s interesting. I suspect that the little insight they provided was not enough.

A better measure of a President’s economic performance is the misery index, inflation plus unemployment.

But there’s more. Ronald Reagan, with an assist from Bush, won the cold war. Subsequent Presidents benefitted. FDR/Truman spent hundreds of thousands of US lives winning WWII. Reagan/Bush did not.

Biden encouraged an open border. Now his administration tells us that our power grid is at the mercy of the Chinese.


9 posted on 01/05/2025 12:26:31 PM PST by ChessExpert (The Democratic party must be destroyed.)
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Stupid article references stock market under Klinton and says "with help from the Internet boom." No, it wasn't a "little help." It was absolutely 100% the Internet and that fool had nothing to do with it. Purely coincidental and anybody who suggests otherwise is ignorant.

Think about it. One could start a business from home with very little operating capital other than investing in inventory. Klinton had zero to do with it.

10 posted on 01/05/2025 12:27:57 PM PST by LouAvul (Rom 8:9b: if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. )
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Bill Clinton remains the champion, with a 17.49% annual return for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Total Return Index during his presidency in January 1993 to January 2001. He managed to balance the federal budget (with help from the Internet boom), and to avoid major wars and recessions; while selling every military secret he could lay his hands on the the CCP.


11 posted on 01/05/2025 12:30:05 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I wish there were a way to state everything in buying power as you have done.

Sometimes people say that their grandparents bought a house for $15,000 in 1960, for example, but the buying power of the dollar was very different then.

Sometimes people say that at their first job in the 1960s, they earned a $1.60 an hour. They imply that someone earning $13 an hour now in some hired help job, is financially much better off earning that wage.

I don’t know if there are any recognized calculations or formulas for this, but I sure would like to see something like that to really gauge differences in buying power of money over the decades.


12 posted on 01/05/2025 12:31:50 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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Bill Clinton remains the champion, with a 17.49% annual return for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Total Return Index during his presidency in January 1993 to January 2001.

The market didn't surge until the third year he was in office.... when Republicans won control of both the House and Senate became for the first time in 40 years. And of course that is when the internet boom started, which the article does acknowledge.

13 posted on 01/05/2025 12:38:52 PM PST by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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Slick benefited from the dot.com boom and the end of the Cold War where defense spending was slashed.

And from co-opting Newt's Contract With America. willie jeff should have to share at least half the credit with Newt.

14 posted on 01/05/2025 12:44:30 PM PST by CommerceComet (Re-elect Donald Trump - AGAIN)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Forbes. I expected it. Bill Clinton never balanced the budget. The deficit went up every year under Clinton. And his policies, such as getting rid of Glass-Steagall, and increasing the mandates of the CRA, started by Jimmy Carter, were the main reasons we had the recession of 2007. Yes, it took that long, but you can point the finger at Bill Clinton.


15 posted on 01/05/2025 12:51:42 PM PST by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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Even with Reagan tripling federal spending during 8 years, the national debt stood at under $10 Trillion.

Reagan didn't triple federal spending. He didn't even double it.

The national debt was below $3 trillion when Reagan left office.

16 posted on 01/05/2025 1:07:40 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Adjust it for Covid during Trump


17 posted on 01/05/2025 1:09:13 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Bullcrap. The covid lockdown world was reopening. That is not stockmarket growth to watch the market restore what he tore down.


18 posted on 01/05/2025 2:10:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And the President has what to do with stock prices?


19 posted on 01/05/2025 2:12:52 PM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Clinton claimed credit for what the 1995-96 and 96-98 GOP Congress did post taking the US House in Nov 1994 for the 1st time since 1955.

They are once again, lying by omission.


20 posted on 01/05/2025 3:25:47 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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