Posted on 12/26/2024 12:28:34 PM PST by NobleFree
No, we need more like double that number yesterday!
The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low.
Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be. That enables the whole TEAM to win.
Having said that, engineers from Eastern Europe were typically really good - putting the educational system of the US to absolute shame.
Shut up Elon we’re full.
An H1B will have no loyalty to Team USA. His loyalty will be to his home country (China), his race and caste (India) or his religion (Muslims).
This will turn out badly for Team USA if conflict breaks out.
We need more Engineers at SpaceX, Tesla, etc.
American universities are not producing enough Engineers so we'll have to import some of them.
I went into tech in the 90s. It did work out well for me. But I have seen a steady rise in H-1Bs and also age discrimination and also unrealistic work expectations. I do not think that Tech is a very good career choice for Americans. Hasn’t been for a long time.
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs and people like that got rich because they owned a company. Engineers? Engineers generally don’t get rich. Tech is not a career field for people who want to make a lot of money. You can, sometimes, make decent money. But it’s hard slogging work year after year and in the end you don’t really see much return on that investment in yourself.
I like Musk a lot. But I think he is wrong on this. We need to change the incentives for US citizens to go into tech. I’d say no college. Just On The Job training. With serious wage increases. Make Americans want to do the work. Give them a reason to do the work.
Bringing in more H-1Bs just makes sure that the real problem is never solved.
I have no problem with reducing or eliminating the H1B quota. Our company won’t even hire candidates who need visa help unless there’s a dire need and the candidate is a great fit - too much hassle and expense.
First he needs to examine how many companies fired their American engineers & replaced them with cheaper H1B visa holders. Start re-hiring Americans FIRST. Until then, no more immigrants. Of any kind.
Yes but......that will conflict with DEI! How can we reconcile such a discrepency?
Ditto that for the IT and consulting areas; without question, the most arrogant, ignorant, self-aggrandizing ass clowns in the industry; convinced of their "brilliance", despite their under-performing and low quality results, refuse to take responsibility for their mistakes, and companies end up spending more money cleaning up their messes.
Middle Easterners and Sub-continent engineers who got their schooling here in the US are better, in that they had to graduate from an American university (which is far better than the universities in India or the Middle east).
Does India us Common Core to teach math? We have a couple generations of math illiterates.
As for motivation. Silicon Valley has been working to drive down wages for decades and they succeeded. High tech used to pay first-world wages. Now they pay desperate immigrant wages.
“ An H1B will have no loyalty to Team USA. His loyalty will be to his home country”
People want to have a crush on Elon. My Trump hating pretend conservative suburban women friends Hate Trump with a steaming heat and they love Elon. No one can explain this
Where is his loyalty?
We're going to have to clean up and reorient American high education before we can shut off the H1B pipeline. The sooner the better,
I work in a STEM field, and even though I always went out of my way to hire Americans I would be the first to admit that the U.S. simply is not producing enough new entrants into my field to replace those who are retiring — let alone address the growing need through “natural” industry growth.
Funny, yes, but hardly surprising. Boomercons get played again, I'm afraid.
Anyone who didn't understand, from the beginning, the Musk is all about Musk, and that's all he's ever been about, deserves whatever angst he or she may now be feeling . . . and whatever else may lay in store.
Turns out that worshipping money as one's god really isn't all that compatible with "America First."
Imma have to call BS on that one Elon.
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