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Did The New York Times Publish a Hoax?
Hotair ^ | 10/15/2024 | David Strom

Posted on 10/15/2024 6:39:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

I am not a ballistics expert and don't play one on TV. I didn't even sleep in a Holiday Inn Express, so what I write here is based entirely on the analysis of others. 

But I am pretty sure they are right, given the balance of the evidence and the provenance of the opinion piece published by the New York Times. 

65 Doctors, Nurses and Paramedics: What We Saw in Gaza

https://t.co/5P10AijNyh— Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib (@afalkhatib) October 11, 2024

At issue is a piece published by the Times in which 65 medical personnel who have worked in Gaza during the Israeli operation accuse soldiers of deliberately targeting Gazan children, shooting them in the head. There are lurid stories and X-ray images that purport to show bullets lodged in the head and neck of children. 

Those X-rays appear to be--according to doctors and ballistics experts--totally fake. And even I, a layman, can call bulls**t on them due to obvious problems that a 10-year-old can spot. 

Look at the linked photos in the above tweet, and you will immediately notice a few things: there are no entry or exit wounds, despite the claim that a military rifle supposedly shot these children with a bullet designed to penetrate armor. The bullets show no deformation and appear to have been placed under the body. 

I could be wrong, but lots of people in the law enforcement, military, and forensics fields have pointed these facts out. People have also done experiments using the same weapon and bullets on models, and there is no way that any of these children would have survived as claimed or that images of the wounds would appear that way on any type of medical images. 

The obvious bullet placed underneath an xray duping the New York Times shows the falloff of a once great publication. https://t.co/k1stIMwBwV— Harry Kaplan (@HarryMKaplan) October 13, 2024

It's not one or two people who are trying to debunk the claims being made in the pages of the Times; it seems to be everybody with any knowledge of ballistics or gunshot wounds piling on. 

.@nytimes’ Gaza piece featured X-ray images claiming to show 5.56 caliber bullets in children’s skulls, but weapons experts have debunked them. With no exit wounds or fractures, the claims don’t hold up. How did this slip through fact-checking?

https://t.co/RRTvhrVqeW— HonestReporting (@HonestReporting) October 13, 2024

The Times begs to differ but offers nothing more than an assurance that their robust fact-checking operation didn't let anything get past them. They have "layers and layers" of fact-checkers, just like Dan Rather did, so nothing gets past them!

Another thing just hit me about the three X-ray photos in the @NYTimes.

All of the bullets are perfectly perpendicular to the camera.

In real life, the head is 3-dimensional - a bullet could come any angle. It is highly unlikely that most bullets would enter exctly from the front or back of a head, no matter how the person is positioned or which direction they are looking, perfectly positioned for a lateral X-ray image.

But they make for great photos.

https://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2024/10/evidence-mounts-that-nytimes-published.html — Elder of Ziyon 🇮🇱 (@elderofziyon) October 14, 2024

Snipers scoff at the images and the stories because they know the effects of military bullets striking heads. The bullets almost certainly would pass through the head, causing massive trauma in both the brain and the exit wound. 

As a former Law Enforcement Officer, Ret. Special Forces Soldier (Green Beret) and Sniper, I feel confident in saying I know the effects of 5.56 NATO (M855).

Conclusion:
The NYT lied or failed to verify the information presented to them. This is based on the MV and BC of the… pic.twitter.com/0gusGVtwHg— Matt Tardio (@angertab) October 12, 2024

I have been following this story in the background, waiting to see if the Times has any real defense of its story. The answer is "no," beyond an assurance that they are correct. They will not release the evidence to independent investigators and insist they are confident that the claims are credible. 

A statement from the editor of New York Times Opinion in response to criticism of a recent guest essay.

https://t.co/fs3X3ivadq pic.twitter.com/dnpEVFoxSG— NYTimes Communications (@NYTimesPR) October 15, 2024

Years ago, I might have taken this statement at face value. These days, you can feel confident that the Times will stick to a Narrative no matter the evidence. They received a Pulitzer for the coverage of the Russia Russia Russia scandal, relying on the Steele Dossier for much of their reporting. They have never apologized for spreading lies. 

A simple look at WHO wrote the essay tells you everything you need to know: they are not credible. The lack of credibility does not mean they are lying, but they certainly have the motive to. Ad hominem arguments are not persuasive. The obvious fakery of the evidence, though, really is. This story is bunkum. 

Alright, so for those of you keeping score, here's where we stand on the @nytimes op-ed accusing the IDF of intentionally shooting Gazan kids in the head:

1. The author of the piece is an anti-Israel fanatic who wrote for Electronic Intifada and whitewashes Hamas' crimes: https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1845278825648701790?t=YRAzGZq69vHWxMQ8qhOSZQ&s=19

2. The organization that sent the medical professionals to Gaza hosts Linda Sarsour for events and posts overt Hamas disinformation: https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1845151979955184108?t=YRAzGZq69vHWxMQ8qhOSZQ&s=19

3. Multiple forensic ballistic specialists have concluded that the images provided in the NYT piece as evidence are either digitally altered or outright fabricated (corroborated by medical professionals):

https://x.com/angertab/status/1845170296468172857?t=YRAzGZq69vHWxMQ8qhOSZQ&s=19

pic.twitter.com/M0D8nOMb61— Eitan Fischberger (@EFischberger) October 13, 2024

The media is covering itself in glory these days. CBS is telling its reporters not to call Jerusalem a city in Israel and chastises a reporter for asking questions of a black writer. They deceptively edited interviews with Kamala Harris and Speaker Johnson, and ABC dismisses a "handful" of apartment complex takeovers as no big deal. 

CBS News and Margaret Brennan (fresh off moderating a debate) cut out Johnson’s entire answer, making it seem as if he hadn’t provided evidence for his claim.

This network is on another level. No Republican should appear on it. pic.twitter.com/PRP0Ce1yLc— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) October 15, 2024

This is regime media, folks. They live and die by hoaxes. 



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Gaza; Israel
KEYWORDS: banglist; gaza; hoax; nyt
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1 posted on 10/15/2024 6:39:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Did The New York Times Publish a Hoax?

What else is new? They admit to biased and untruthful reporting for political ends stoked by Obama and coming to fruition with Trump as the threat and then reality in becoming President.

2 posted on 10/15/2024 6:47:54 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When don’t they?


3 posted on 10/15/2024 6:50:01 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: SeekAndFind
Did The New York Times Not Publish a Hoax?

there. fixed it.

(exept when revealing the location of our troops to our enemies)

4 posted on 10/15/2024 6:54:48 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (there will come a day when FR rejects articles from the NYT, et al. as "Commie trash, no thank you")
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To: SeekAndFind

https://usafacts.org/

New website. Ask it a question


5 posted on 10/15/2024 6:57:51 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: SeekAndFind
If Walter Duranty could look up from hell to see what they have become he would be SO proud.
6 posted on 10/15/2024 7:07:30 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why aren’t these people in Cairo? They could have walked there, by now.


7 posted on 10/15/2024 7:08:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
"Did The New York Times Purposely Publish a Lie?"

I fixed it again.

8 posted on 10/15/2024 7:12:22 PM PDT by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The NY Times will reach back in history to resurrect their Dan Rather defense for this piece - they will state the X-Rays are “fake but accurate!”.


9 posted on 10/15/2024 7:12:54 PM PDT by Freedumb
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To: SeekAndFind

They always do and they call it news.


10 posted on 10/15/2024 7:20:49 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: Frank Drebin

That’s innonvation right there.

The double “there. fixed it.”

Never seen it attempted before.

Brilliant!


11 posted on 10/15/2024 7:22:37 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (there will come a day when FR rejects articles from the NYT, et al. as "Commie trash, no thank you")
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To: SeekAndFind

Bkmk


12 posted on 10/15/2024 7:25:29 PM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: SeekAndFind

Asking an undeformed bullet to come to a stop in the middle of a brain is like asking it to stop in the middle of a pot of oatmeal.


13 posted on 10/15/2024 7:31:17 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..)
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21,000 GAZA CHILDREN MISSING
06/26/2024 4:17:26 AM PDT · by hardspunned
The Libertarian Institute ^ | 6/25/24 | Kyle Ansalone

Save the Children issued a startling new report suggesting that 21,000 Gazan children are missing as the Israeli onslaught drags on. Aside from those unaccounted for, at least 14,000 children have been confirmed killed. The report stated that in the chaos of war, it is hard to locate missing children, but some are thought to be separated from their parents while others are buried under the rubble or in mass graves.

“At least 17,000 children are believed to be unaccompanied and separated and approximately 4,000 children are likely missing under the rubble, with an unknown number also in mass graves,”...


14 posted on 10/15/2024 7:34:17 PM PDT by Liz (Faith is believing what you cannot see; its reward is to see what you believe. St Augustine)
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21,000 GAZA CHILDREN MISSING
06/26/2024 4:17:26 AM PDT · by hardspunned
The Libertarian Institute ^ | 6/25/24 | Kyle Ansalone

Save the Children issued a startling new report suggesting that 21,000 Gazan children are missing as the Israeli onslaught drags on. Aside from those unaccounted for, at least 14,000 children have been confirmed killed. The report stated that in the chaos of war, it is hard to locate missing children, but some are thought to be separated from their parents while others are buried under the rubble or in mass graves.

“At least 17,000 children are believed to be unaccompanied and separated and approximately 4,000 children are likely missing under the rubble, with an unknown number also in mass graves,”...


15 posted on 10/15/2024 7:34:18 PM PDT by Liz (Faith is believing what you cannot see; its reward is to see what you believe. St Augustine)
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To: heartwood
Asking an undeformed bullet to come to a stop in the middle of a brain is like asking it to stop in the middle of a pot of oatmeal.

Anyone with brains could see the fakery. A watermelon would show massive trauma, and a brain likewise. And the bullet would not come to a stop mid-way without some deformation. How could a media “titan” serve up such fakery and think no one would challenge it? Such stupidity on the left.

16 posted on 10/15/2024 7:42:33 PM PDT by roadcat ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

This hoax article will probably win both the Nobel Prize in Literature and a Pulitzer prize.


17 posted on 10/15/2024 7:44:45 PM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

Thanks!


18 posted on 10/15/2024 7:45:33 PM PDT by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: heartwood

Now those photos were so fake. Anyone could tell no way in hell are those photos authentic.
Kinetic energy alone proves those projectiles would never be in that perfect shape and embedded in the middle of the “victim”


19 posted on 10/15/2024 8:01:49 PM PDT by midwest_hiker
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To: SeekAndFind
Of course it did. It'ss the New York Times.
20 posted on 10/15/2024 8:07:24 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral creulty of the Biden-Harris regime.)
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