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40 US Soldiers Stranded in Israel on Oct 7; Hamas Knew Their Names, Ranks, Locations
Red State ^ | 10/08/2024 | Jennifer Van Laar |

Posted on 10/08/2024 10:33:42 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Forty U.S. Army soldiers who were in Israel as the advance team for what they thought was a routine training exercise last October 7 suddenly found themselves in the middle of a war, unarmed, and being forced to beg reluctant Pentagon officials to send an Air Force plane to extract them. ---SNIP--- With his men in mortal danger, the U.S. team leader requested permission to open the arms locker so they could retrieve their firearms but was denied at the US Central Command level and “denied and/or ignored” at a level above that, according to a military intelligence analyst with knowledge of the mission and exfiltration.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hamas; israel; october7; operationironbison; tzeelim; usaf; usarmy; usmilitary
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Another situation where the amdministration inexplicably refuses to allow our people to defend themselves.
1 posted on 10/08/2024 10:33:42 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

These military people who denied troops the ability to defend themselves must be disappointed that the troops were not killed because the troops will return home and they will be PO’ed. And they will find out who did this to them.


2 posted on 10/08/2024 10:39:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Our military has many enemies that hate them. The DemocRAT party is in that enemy group. Not kidding. In any way. At all. Our military should be told (not by their woke fat-assed leaders) that DemocRATs will abandon them at a moment’s notice. Nota bene.


3 posted on 10/08/2024 10:40:39 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Kid Shelleen

Lots of this Federale stupidity and incompetence “happens” because these DC Federales are working (shirking) from home. This kills collaboration and communication within Federal agencies.

You are a coder or other techie who works much better from home. With no office idlers interrupting you. I get it. But Federal workers, especially in the DC region, are much different. Shirking from home, they can maintain their Federal agency in a steady state. But any stress or emergency cannot be handled effectively.


4 posted on 10/08/2024 10:42:24 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Kid Shelleen

This is what happens when leftist commissars control the military. You have snipers denied permission to take out a suicide bomber who then murders 13 US marines. You have a line officer who actually asks permission to arm his soldiers in a hostile war environment. Not hard to understand why enlistments are way down.


5 posted on 10/08/2024 10:45:20 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Kid Shelleen

The leader has NO business leading a military unit. Guaranteed it was a female.

“Approximately a quarter of the soldiers were just miles from Gaza in off-base housing near the IDF’s Tze’elim base when the attack began. A group of local Israelis – IDF reservists, police officers, and ordinary citizens – got them to the base, which Hamas terrorists were quickly heading toward. With his men in mortal danger,

*****the U.S. team leader requested permission*****

to open the arms locker so they could retrieve their firearms but was denied at the US Central Command level and “denied and/or ignored” at a level above that, according to a military intelligence analyst with knowledge of the mission and exfiltration.”


6 posted on 10/08/2024 10:46:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: MtnClimber

The leader of the unit in shelter a mile away from the attacking Gazans and calling HQ in Europe **to ask permission** to arm themselves as they sheltered in place. Wonder what her name was?


7 posted on 10/08/2024 10:48:14 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Kid Shelleen

Wow! I have not heard anything about US troops in Israel on October 7.

By the Grace of God and VERY LITTLE help from our WOKE US military.


8 posted on 10/08/2024 10:50:01 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, LGBTQs, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, CommucRats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Probably obtained from the same degenerates who gave out all 140,000 Arizona university students info.


9 posted on 10/08/2024 10:53:22 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: DesertRhino

My gosh, you asked permission? In a war zone about to be overrun? What mind of fool???


10 posted on 10/08/2024 11:00:04 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Tze’elim is IDF Urban Warfare Training Center.

A guess: Possibly US troops were staying at the small American radar base on Mount Keren, which is closer to Gaza.


11 posted on 10/08/2024 11:00:05 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

12 posted on 10/08/2024 11:13:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

No kidding. Freaking take command. Issue out arms, and make a defensive position. No offensive work or movement.

Unreal that this is a modern military officer. And then the European Command would prefer them to be murdered or taking into the tunnels rather than resist.

This is the Army they want to use to fight China? Intervene in Ukraine and fight Russians? Have a war with Iran?
Unreal...


13 posted on 10/08/2024 11:15:34 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: MtnClimber

Rules of engagement imposed by pols, comfortable in their committee loungers, are one of the greatest causes of death on these forays. Read “Targeted Lebanon” (Jack Carr) for the perfect example.


14 posted on 10/08/2024 11:18:53 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: DesertRhino

Would it have been a crime under UCMJ to mount up with the weapons first, and then take care of the permission thingy afterwards, when they got around to it?

Oops! Sorry about that. Beg your pardon.


15 posted on 10/08/2024 11:21:52 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: DesertRhino

Right. Written in such a way as to avoid the use of pronouns. Modembly a female.


16 posted on 10/08/2024 11:24:15 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: allendale

“You have snipers denied permission to take out a suicide bomber who then murders 13 US marines. “

There is a culture of “ask permission” now. That sniper should have shot instead of asking permission like a cop. I bet not a day goes by that he doesn’t regret that. And his shot would have been proven correct.

Tragic.


17 posted on 10/08/2024 11:34:26 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Kid Shelleen

Why the heck would anyone facing that situation need ‘permission’ to defend themselves?

Trump needs to fire these brass ass-hats en masse.


18 posted on 10/08/2024 11:46:36 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: DesertRhino

“No kidding. Freaking take command. Issue out arms, and make a defensive position. “

Israelis gave them weapons.


19 posted on 10/08/2024 11:56:56 AM PDT by TexasGator (l . . l / l / . l l . l).1 1 l l l l l " / . l l ( . 1 l l l . . l// l l l l . l l)
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To: Kid Shelleen; MtnClimber

My career would not have been that important to me. I would have opened the locker and welcomed the court martial.


20 posted on 10/08/2024 12:14:12 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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