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New York’s Dangerous Proposed Amendment To Its State Constitution
Wall Street Journal via MSN ^ | 10/07/2024

Posted on 10/07/2024 10:23:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

When the government gets in the business of making new rights, it pays to look out for the ones you already have. New York Democrats are pushing a November ballot measure, known as Prop. 1, to create new protected classes in the state constitution. The amendment is an attempt to drive Democratic turnout, and it’s a threat to other freedoms.

The New York constitution forbids discrimination on the basis of race, color, creed or religion. Prop. 1 adds “sex” to the list and says the term includes “sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, pregnancy, pregnancy outcomes, and reproductive healthcare and autonomy.” The amendment would also ban discrimination based on age, national origin, ethnicity, and disability.

There’s no real need for these additions. A New York civil-rights law and a sweeping human rights law already ban discrimination based on sex, gender identity, age, disability, and most of these other characteristics in employment, public accommodations, housing, and non-sectarian schools. As for “reproductive autonomy,” state law has codified Roe v. Wade, allowing abortion through the third trimester with a doctor’s approval.

Democrats are pushing the amendment for political reasons, scaring women about their abortion access to drive turnout in House races. The Legislature introduced the amendment in 2022 after the Supreme Court overturned Roe and could have put it to voters last year if the issue were so urgent, as they did other ballot measures. Instead, lawmakers held it for a major election year.

But by enshrining these protections in the constitution, the amendment heightens the danger to other rights. If a man identifies as a woman and prefers to use a women’s locker room, bathroom, sports team, or prison facility, does the amendment guarantee his right—at the expense of women’s safety?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: constitution; lgbt; newyork; proposition1
Will parents who don’t wish their child to “transition” from one gender to another have a right to stop it, or even be informed by a school what’s going on? Would conscience objections to transgender procedures or abortion be harder to defend? Expect lawsuits from all sides if Prop. 1 passes.
1 posted on 10/07/2024 10:23:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yet another reason to expel California and New York from the Union.


2 posted on 10/07/2024 10:25:24 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: SeekAndFind

Many will vote yes because they didn’t read it through. compound sentences should never be used.


3 posted on 10/07/2024 10:28:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (mY)
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To: SeekAndFind

For decades from the 1950s onward, NY had a progressive, old-school Democrat assembly, dominated by NY City and downstate, a Republican state Senate, with governors who would bounce between mainstream Democrat and mainstream Republican

So even though NY was a liberal state, it was prevented from the worst excesses of ideology

That’s LONG gone now. NY State, like California, through use of massive Govt debt, printed Fed.gov money and crony capitalism - has grown a massive government bureaucracy, and rigged its politics and electoral system into a one-party state.

Like California, it allows a few GOP to play the game, for the window-dressing of fake opposition, as long as they are spineless RINOs and don’t rock the boat.


4 posted on 10/07/2024 10:33:14 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
For decades from the 1950s onward, NY had a progressive, old-school Democrat assembly, dominated by NY City and downstate, a Republican state Senate, with governors who would bounce between mainstream Democrat and mainstream Republican So even though NY was a liberal state, it was prevented from the worst excesses of ideology

Yep, They held back the Dam between Pataki and Bruno, the dam has broken.

5 posted on 10/07/2024 10:34:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SeekAndFind
"Prop. 1 adds “sex” to the list and says the term includes “sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, pregnancy, pregnancy outcomes, and reproductive healthcare and autonomy.” The amendment would also ban discrimination based on age, national origin, ethnicity, and disability. "

Does that mean that if a 15 year old wants to get pregnant by a 30 year old rock star or teacher, statutory rape doesn't apply because it would be discrimination?

6 posted on 10/07/2024 10:36:02 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: Sacajaweau

Anybody could read that & if not very careful in interpreting it, be easily deceived in what it really says. It could have been written simpler & more understandable, but of course that might have made their original intention difficult to determine.


7 posted on 10/07/2024 10:37:52 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Regulator
"Yet another reason to expel California and New York from the Union."

We could turn them into a prison colony, but that's essentially what they are doing to themselves.

8 posted on 10/07/2024 10:47:45 AM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

reproductive healthcare...aka....abortion


9 posted on 10/07/2024 10:55:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (mY)
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To: KrisKrinkle

And I see no age limitation on the abortion issue.


10 posted on 10/07/2024 10:56:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (mY)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I like to read “abortion is safe and legal in NYS”...then how come the baby dies??


11 posted on 10/07/2024 10:58:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (mY)
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To: SeekAndFind

Creating a $hit Show


12 posted on 10/07/2024 11:02:09 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Sacajaweau

“reproductive healthcare...aka....abortion”

“And I see no age limitation on the abortion issue.”

I know that, and it’s intended. I just think there are some unintended consequences in the proposed law...or maybe they are intended too.


13 posted on 10/07/2024 11:28:56 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: SeekAndFind

The New York constitution forbids discrimination on the basis of race, color, creed or religion.
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And yet, race-based affirmative action is everywhere.


14 posted on 10/07/2024 11:38:10 AM PDT by Diversity Is Our Weakness
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To: Regulator

California is a very lucrative state for the union


15 posted on 10/07/2024 12:55:46 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: SeekAndFind

Since abortion and gender ideology are a religion, this amendment contradicts the US Constitution’s Establishment Clause.


16 posted on 10/07/2024 1:14:32 PM PDT by nicollo (Remember when we had to close tags?)
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To: SeekAndFind

ONLY THING MISSING IS TOENAIL FUNGUS.


17 posted on 10/07/2024 1:25:37 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Thank you for referencing that article SeekAndFind.

"New York Democrats are pushing a November ballot measure, known as Prop. 1, to create new protected classes in the state constitution."


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

I cannot believe that (constitutionally clueless?) New York Democrats are pushing for a "protected classes" amendment to NY Constitution that is basically prohibited by the federal Constitution imo.

"Article I, Section 10, Clause 1: No State shall [all emphases added] enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility [peerage]."

After Democratic and Republican Trump supporters support hopeful Trump 47 with a new, Constitution-respecting Congress on Election Day, New York State will not be able establish "protected classes" that abridge constitutionally enumerated personal protections.

Excerpted from 14th Amendment:

Finally, let's not allow the anti-Trump media try to fade our memories of what we witnessed on July 13.


18 posted on 10/07/2024 1:52:48 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SeekAndFind

The pervert supremacists are on the march!


19 posted on 10/07/2024 5:28:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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