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What’s Behind Trump’s Best Poll Results in Weeks
New York Times ^ | 9/23/2024 | Nate Cohn

Posted on 09/23/2024 8:08:10 AM PDT by edwinland

This morning, the latest New York Times/Siena College polls of Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina find Donald J. Trump leading Kamala Harris in all three states, with a lead of three points in North Carolina, four points in Georgia and five points in Arizona.

In one sense, the finding is very clear: It’s a good set of numbers for Mr. Trump. It’s not necessarily an exceptional one, as Ms. Harris’s easiest path to victory lies in the Northern battlegrounds. But Mr. Trump’s path to victory begins in the Sun Belt; if he wins these three states, he wouldn’t need many more.

In another sense, this result might give you a bit of polling whiplash ... the polls have been relatively stable over the last week — or even a hair better for Vice President Harris than polls taken before the debate. These results don’t fit that story at all: On average, the results are five points better for Mr. Trump than when we last polled these states, in mid-August. And in each state, these results are the best results for Mr. Trump from a high-quality pollster in weeks.

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You might think that Mr. Trump’s gains might be driven by changes in the likelihood of Republicans or Democrats to respond to a poll. But the balance of response rates by party and race stayed exceptionally similar to what they were in August, even as the results were very different.

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It’s interesting that Mr. Trump fares so much better than his MAGA allies, whom you might think of as fundamentally similar political figures — and it’s something to monitor to see if it holds through November. For now, the big swing in the presidential race, without a large down-ballot swing, suggests there’s something specific to the presidential race at play.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024election; goodnews; polling
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Good analysis. Paywalled but I viewed it on archive.ph
1 posted on 09/23/2024 8:08:10 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: edwinland

Polls are like statistics ... you can get whatever result you want by picking the right group to answer questions asked.


2 posted on 09/23/2024 8:13:24 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: edwinland

“suggests there’s something specific to the presidential race at play”

Yeah. He towers over the foreigner running against him in all respects, not just physical height. Other then the ghettoized idiots here in California voting for her just cuz, the rest of the country actually notices things like that. NYC excepted of course...but even parts of that place aren’t lost to Mr. Trump.


3 posted on 09/23/2024 8:13:36 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: edwinland

Middle class and working class voters are coming to realize that Heels Up Harris is nothing but an empty pantsuit. IOW,they know that the lights are on but nobody’s home.


4 posted on 09/23/2024 8:13:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: All

Why the Trump surge?

Everytime Kamala opens her mouth, Trump scores more points.

An added point pusher——Tim Walz was sent out of hiding to make a speech this week, too.


5 posted on 09/23/2024 8:14:34 AM PDT by Liz (Faith is believing what you cannot see; its reward is to see what you believe. St Augustine)
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To: edwinland

If it can’t be deciphered why polls started leaning Trump, then they’ll either have to “rid” of Trump or “shut down Maga responses” online.


6 posted on 09/23/2024 8:15:37 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: edwinland

In Georgia, the Harris commies have started running ads linking Trump to Project 2025 and others that say Jan 6th was an “insurrection’. I’m hopeful that is a sign they’re getting desperate.


7 posted on 09/23/2024 8:15:38 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (President Trump saved by DIVINE INTERVENTION. GOD CONTINUES TO BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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To: edwinland
"What’s Behind Trump’s Best Poll Results in Weeks" ???

Kamala Harris???

She's a dud, and the Democrats selected her to be a dud... They've known Trump was going win this election from the moment America discovered that Biden was a vegetable. They are already prepping for 2028.

8 posted on 09/23/2024 8:17:45 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Liz

Polls over the weekend touted here as Kams surging were in fact, premature.


9 posted on 09/23/2024 8:18:31 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma deuce)
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To: jerod

And they plan to collapse everything and blame it on Trump.


10 posted on 09/23/2024 8:19:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: edwinland
In order for pollsters to remain credible, polling has to become more real and accurate the closer we get to election day. The MSM and the Pollsters are slowly closing the gaslight valve.
11 posted on 09/23/2024 8:20:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: edwinland
A backhanded assessment by the nyt, grudging in ever letter.

Why are Trump's numbers improving? The more people see of harris the less they like her. She is a very disgusting woman and about as shallow as a sheet of paper.

12 posted on 09/23/2024 8:21:21 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: Liz

People don’t vote for the VP in almost every case going back a century, however JD will reduce Walz to a smattering mess like we haven’t seen in our lifetime. For those *independents* on the fence might be swayed once they see Walz reduced to ashes in 90 minutes. Maybe even pick off a few rat votes or they just stay home, polls be damned.


13 posted on 09/23/2024 8:26:28 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: edwinland

Wow. Up to 11 replies now without the usual “yeah, but what about the cheating.... they are going to just have to manufacture more fake ballots...”.


14 posted on 09/23/2024 8:26:42 AM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as big an enemy to this country as national media)
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To: Sequoyah101

I like the Jack Posobiec take on X that he has never known a candidate that was truly ahead to be begging for another debate to happen (and possible bounce)...


15 posted on 09/23/2024 8:27:02 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( Lee Harvey Oswald and the Bands final performance)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Vote democrat if YOU WANT:

HIGHER GROCERY PRICES, HIGHER CRIME, HIGHER INFLATION, HIGHER INTEREST RATES AND MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

YOU DECIDE !!!


16 posted on 09/23/2024 8:27:57 AM PDT by Pearfect (Ou can't beat the competition lock-in)
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To: jerod
From the outset I have hoped they put the ding-dong in the running for a few of reasons: Can't be worse than fjb, if she does happen to win nothing ventured nothing gained, she had leverage with threats to get the slot, by letting her run it shuts her up, if she loses it shuts her up and gets her out of the way for '28.

Yes, she is a dud and the more she is exposed the bigger and more unlikable of a dud she becomes. Ren and Stumpy have new competition. Happy, happy! Joy, joy!

17 posted on 09/23/2024 8:28:15 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: edwinland

“Mr. Trump”

Grow up, NYT.


18 posted on 09/23/2024 8:28:25 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: central_va

i wonder how they will handle their manipulations with so much early voting. i think i won’t pay much attention to them, one way or another.


19 posted on 09/23/2024 8:29:56 AM PDT by avital2
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To: edwinland

I did some quick math on the electoral college map the other day and found this website.

https://www.270towin.com/

If you color red the states in won in 2020, then add in Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada and then hopefully factor in that Nebraska is changing how they award electoral college votes, Trump would be at 269, meaning if he doesn’t win another state, Kamala would also be at 269, I think this has happened only 1 other time Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr.

Because of the 2020 census Red States had a net gain of electoral college votes, if the census did not count illegals, then Trump would be much closer to winning the 270 he needs to become POTUS.


20 posted on 09/23/2024 8:30:29 AM PDT by srmanuel
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