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1 posted on 08/13/2024 12:24:24 PM PDT by dennisw
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There are no ‘experts’ on this type of thing.


2 posted on 08/13/2024 12:28:45 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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They should capture all of Russia within a couple weeks.


3 posted on 08/13/2024 12:32:21 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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Fake buffoon Tsar has Kursk egg on his face.

4 posted on 08/13/2024 12:32:24 PM PDT by dennisw
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and predict how long the valiant Ukrainian units tasked with launching the first invasion of Russia since World War II can hope to hold out.

Reminds me of the valiant troopers of Custer's Seventh Cavalry...

5 posted on 08/13/2024 12:32:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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You mean the experts that had no clue the Ukies were planning this. Based on history one thing both sides should be good at is Maskirova. You could ask Model or Guderian about that skill. Thing I gon’t get is with satellites that can read license plates how we don’t know exactly what’s going on.


6 posted on 08/13/2024 12:33:32 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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Inside Putin’s meetings with top Russian security officials: he yelled at Kursk mayor
Story by Sededin Dedovic • 9h •

The Commander of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Oleksandr Syrskyi, stated that Kyiv controls 1,000 square kilometers of Russian territory and that the “offensive in the Kursk region, which began a week ago, continues,” reports the BBC.

After more than 120,000 people were evacuated from the Russian border region of Kursk, local authorities are now evacuating residents from the Belgorod region as Ukraine continues its surprise attack on Russian territory.

Another 60,000 people are expected to be evacuated. Ukraine controls 28 villages in the Kursk region, the local governor reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday afternoon. “The main task of the Ministry of Defense is to repel and expel the enemy from our territory,” said Putin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/inside-putin-s-meetings-with-top-russian-security-officials-he-yelled-at-kursk-mayor/ar-AA1oIC8t?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=4f3aa14589094a88bd763e08ad06df5a&ei=24


7 posted on 08/13/2024 12:34:49 PM PDT by dennisw
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I wonder how many of “Ukraine’s” troops are USA/NATO troops?


9 posted on 08/13/2024 12:37:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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>> Whether it could prove a tactical masterstroke
... or maybe it’s merely Zzzzzzellinsskyy’s taking the tactical master bait...


10 posted on 08/13/2024 12:44:11 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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There is one truth. Ukraine loses no matter how it goes. They can only win with heavy support from us. If they lose, they lose. But if they seem to be doing very well, that puts Russia into a corner.... do they accept a NATO supplied, supported and directed defeat inside Russia? OR do they go very big somehow?

The NATO game plan is that they will shake things up, and cause Putin to fall from power. But it’s actually backing them into a very bad corner where they accept a loss, a change in government, etc... OR escalate bigly. And such an escalation doesn’t have to be nuclear. Hyperbarics or glide bombs hitting Kiev, the seat of government, the not so concealed NATO training and supply enclaves in Ukraine. And those troops inside Russia have no hope of air defense, they can bomb the living hell out of them. The gas line to the EU is right there.
And then there is nuclear.

There is no path to Uke victory unless one erroneously believes this small incursion will cause Russia to depose Putin and install a DC/London approved Ivy educated WEF leader.
Nothing in Russian history suggests anything remotely like this will occur.


13 posted on 08/13/2024 12:59:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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...and look how much of our American dollars to get to this point🤔

smdh


17 posted on 08/13/2024 1:12:26 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (loose lips sink ships obvious whete he takes his orders from)
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Zelensky loves offensives. He has quite a bit to show off (~1000 sq. kilometers) for modest Ukrainian casualties.

The Russian army might have a few more forcibly retired generals soon. One or two might actually be competent.

On the other hand, Putin might gain support for his costly and probably somewhat unpopular war.


18 posted on 08/13/2024 1:18:29 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Wonder how many of our spooks are doing the dirty work for Ukraine couldn’t handle.

Zelensky whined they were down for the count and needed more arms and money and all of a sudden just like that they take some land from Russia.


20 posted on 08/13/2024 1:22:05 PM PDT by Vaduz
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All the Ukrainians in Russian territory will die unless they retreat.

There is zero chance of them reaching the Kursk nuclear plant or holding the territory.

21 posted on 08/13/2024 1:23:08 PM PDT by Kazan
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The last time Kursk was invaded, it was the NAZIS, and we all know how that turned out. The Germans used a force of 500,000. The Soviets counter attacked with 1,300,000 soldiers. This was a horrible strategic move on the part of Zelensky. Gives the Russians now more motivation to extract more from their own soldiers and increase troop strength. I see bad ending for Ukraine here.


27 posted on 08/13/2024 1:33:31 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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Initially, I assumed it was a counter attack.

Now reports are they are digging in. Not sure that is going to be a smart move. Eventually Russia will get around to going after the incursion


28 posted on 08/13/2024 1:36:30 PM PDT by redgolum
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It’s a suicide mission.


30 posted on 08/13/2024 1:44:33 PM PDT by McGruff (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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33 posted on 08/13/2024 2:09:43 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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Zalensky does as he’s told.....CIA/NSA/New World Order calls the shots..


34 posted on 08/13/2024 2:39:37 PM PDT by traditional2 ("Is it them, again, Yogi?")
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I’m going with the ‘Fatal Bear Poking’ version of how this plays out... Just hope it doesn’t go nuclear. What an incredibly s***show the world has become, absent powerful (or now, really, ANY) leadership in the United States.


37 posted on 08/13/2024 3:03:25 PM PDT by drwoof
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This is silly. Poke the russian bear? come on...there are in a war with each other. Russia is doing everything they can to win already.


42 posted on 08/13/2024 4:00:41 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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