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You will be refused bail even if you only watched riots from the sidelines, judge warns
UK Telegraph ^ | 08 09 2024 | Telegraph Reporters

Posted on 08/09/2024 8:45:36 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

A judge has warned that anybody present at a riot will be remanded in custody, even if they were only a “curious observer”.

District Judge Francis Rafferty said that someone’s presence at a riot made them involved in the riot as he refused two bail applications.

The judge spoke as four men appeared in Belfast magistrates’ court charged in relation to disorder in the city.

Cameron Armstrong, 18, from Belfast, was charged with rioting in the Connswater area of east Belfast, which saw “violent disorder, petrol bombs, fireworks and different projectiles thrown at police and extensive damage caused to property”, the court heard. ‘Periphery of the scene’

Armstrong’s solicitor said that his client had never come to the attention of the police before, adding that while he admitted he was on the “periphery” of the scene, he denied being involved in any of the disorder.

When asked by the judge what he was doing at the scene, the defence solicitor told the court that Armstrong had gone to the area “to have a look”, adding that he had left when petrol bombs were thrown.

Judge Rafferty said: “He doesn’t have to throw a petrol bomb or brick to be involved in disorder, if he’s present at disorder.”

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To: Pajamajan

I sure will, and for all of us, too 🙏🏻✝️


61 posted on 08/09/2024 10:49:54 PM PDT by Menes
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To: yesthatjallen

Disarmed populous!


62 posted on 08/09/2024 11:00:44 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

63 posted on 08/09/2024 11:02:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Did I see a MP warn US citizens they will arrest us if we criticized the crown?

Or was that a deep fake?


64 posted on 08/09/2024 11:06:25 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: yesthatjallen

They need someone to help them pull off a coup and Make England Great Again.


65 posted on 08/09/2024 11:28:35 PM PDT by McGruff (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Karliner
> Did I see a MP warn US citizens they will arrest us if we criticized the crown? <

It wasn’t an MP. It was an amazingly stupid UK police commissioner.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4257402/posts

So you had better watch yourself, pal. You could be sitting on your back porch in the good old USA and two UK detectives could show up with an international arrest warrant.

Some of our good old boys might be a bit resistant to that.


66 posted on 08/09/2024 11:49:50 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right; Thapsus_epiphany
Where is King Charles in this?

The reigning monarch heartily approves of Starmer's actions.

The King has spoken of how he has been "greatly encouraged by the many examples of community spirit that had countered the aggression and criminality from a few" - as he reflected on the recent violent disorder seen across the country. A Buckingham Palace spokesperson said the King spoke to Sir Keir Starmer, along with holding a joint call with the chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council, Chief Constable Gavin Stephens, and UK Gold Commander Ben Harrington, chief constable of Essex. [...] "In these calls, His Majesty was updated on the current situation and expressed his heartfelt thanks to the police and emergency services for all they are doing to restore peace in those areas that have been affected by violent disorder," the spokesperson continued.

Regards,

67 posted on 08/10/2024 12:22:25 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: laplata

It was in reference to Northern Ireland. The others are a different scenario.


68 posted on 08/10/2024 12:25:18 AM PDT by Spacetrucker ("You Missed,BI*CH" Tom MacDonald )
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To: yesthatjallen
Notice how these cowardly bastards never hold Muslims to the same rules. And that's what the thrust of these protests are about.

Instead of sitting down and considering the grievances of the so called "far right thugs" who don't want to be crushed under Islam, the idiots and ideologues in the British "government" are doubling down on their draconian policies against indigenous Brits. Brilliant!

69 posted on 08/10/2024 1:09:02 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: yesthatjallen

next up if you had thoughts in private about the uprising you will be incarcerated


70 posted on 08/10/2024 2:27:06 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I kind of think of the 70s Dr. Who serial “Inferno” where the Doctor winds up in a parallel universe where Britain was a totally facist state.

Maybe that wasn’t too far off the mark except for the mutants and the lava flows.

One of my favorite vintage Dr Who serials.


71 posted on 08/10/2024 3:28:00 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: yesthatjallen

https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1822084918215934405

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods

Diversity of opinion and temperate speech are values sorely lacking in the USA. Thank goodness the UK police commissioner is holding Americans accountable for any speech offending alien immigrants.

Or as Shakespeare would say:

“Just kidding. Blow me!”
From foxnews.com
9:37 PM · Aug 9, 2024 149.3K Views


72 posted on 08/10/2024 3:33:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: 11th_VA

We have a bill of “rights,” and there are dozens of political prisoners rotting in federal pens. Doesn’t mean jack anymore!


73 posted on 08/10/2024 3:49:56 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: mewzilla

That’s funny. Love JW.


74 posted on 08/10/2024 4:14:58 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's not as if Biden has the nuclear codes or anything. 😳)
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To: yesthatjallen
"It's a wide noose."

But it seems to apply only to the English, not so much for the muslim...

75 posted on 08/10/2024 4:43:26 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: 11th_VA

“This is what happens when you don’t have a Bill of Rights”

We’ve got one...not doing us a hell of a lot of good.


76 posted on 08/10/2024 4:55:00 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: devere

“The UK has become a two-tier police state.”

Copying the colonies.


77 posted on 08/10/2024 4:57:21 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

What’s worse, the British concept of “police bail” has been imported to the USA.

Police bail is letting prisoners go instead of requiring bail to assure appearance.


78 posted on 08/10/2024 5:00:17 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: lightman

Amen. Wales for the Welsh, Scotland for the Scottish.


79 posted on 08/10/2024 5:03:12 AM PDT by maro (MAGA!)
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To: lightman

Ulstermen different breed of cat. Told UK to shove their gun control. Have better laws than NY, CA etc. Would tell the “real Irish” the same


80 posted on 08/10/2024 5:04:00 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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