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‘Furious battles are underway’: Kursk residents call on Putin for help after Ukrainian incursion
CNN ^ | August 8, 2024 | Daria Tarasova, Jim Sciutto, Allegra Goodwin, Tim Lister, and Ivana Kottasová

Posted on 08/08/2024 6:02:00 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

Ukrainian forces are pushing further into the Kursk region of Russia, in a cross-border incursion that surprised even American officials, multiple US and Ukrainian officials tell CNN.

Ukrainian forces are comprised of a mix of Ukrainian regular and special operations units, unlike previous Ukrainian operations inside Russia that often involved undercover units and local sympathizers.

The intention, say US and Ukrainian officials, is multifaceted, in part to disrupt and demoralize Russian forces and in part to divert Russian forces away from other parts of the eastern front.

Russia claimed on Thursday to have halted a Ukrainian incursion into its territory, but later said that some battles are ongoing in the Kursk region. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, units of the “North” group of its forces, together with the Russian Federal Security Service, the FSB, “continue to destroy Ukrainian armed forces formations in the Sudzhensky and Korenevsky districts of the Kursk region, which are directly adjacent to the Russian-Ukrainian border.” CNN cannot independently verify these claims.

Kursk residents, who live in the Sudzhansky District, recorded a video address to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday asking for his help, saying he has been misinformed about the situation on the ground and the Russian Defense Ministry’s statements about things being under control are untrue.

The address was published on a local Telegram channel that is dedicated to covering the latest news out of the town of Sudzha in Kursk region, which has been under Ukrainian attack for several days.

“These lies enable the local residents to die. The Chief of the General staff recently told you that the situation is under control, but today huge furious battles are underway in the Sudzhansky and Korenevsky districts,” one of the residents said.

“Sudzha was attacked, turned into ruins in hours."

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To: JonPreston

“BroJoeK, you left this Wall O’ text on my doorstep.”

Your request for information from BroJoeK
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4257269/posts?page=262#262


281 posted on 08/12/2024 5:00:29 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: MinorityRepublican
We had bad intelligence. Or maybe we manipulated the truth because of the MIC? War is good for business.

September 2, 2014 6:21 PM EDT

Reports emerged Tuesday that Russian President Vladimir Putin said he could take control of Ukraine’s capital city in as little as two weeks, a remark that escalated already pitched tensions between Russia and the West in the lead-up to NATO’s summit in Wales.

Putin made the incendiary comment in a phone conversation with European Commission President José Manuel Barroso, according to Barroso’s account, published by Italy’s La Repubblica on Monday.

282 posted on 08/12/2024 5:09:07 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
Reports emerged Tuesday that Russian President Vladimir Putin said he could take control of Ukraine’s capital city in as little as two weeks.

May be true in 2014. But the Ukrainians had 8 years to learn how to fight.

283 posted on 08/12/2024 5:12:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: BroJoeK

Excellent summary of US/Russia political relationship history. Now if some can just comprehend...

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4257269/posts?page=274#274


284 posted on 08/12/2024 5:33:22 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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William James Durant American historian and philosopher, best known for his 11-volume work, "The Story of Civilization."
285 posted on 08/12/2024 5:33:41 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: JonPreston
I see someone sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong again…


286 posted on 08/12/2024 5:36:51 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: BroJoeK

Nice work there, BrojoKe! 👍👍😂


287 posted on 08/12/2024 5:42:18 PM PDT by ANKE69 ( ✌️ 🇺🇲 Beware of zeeper doxxing. )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; BroJoeK; Allegra


288 posted on 08/12/2024 5:43:23 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

She and I may not always agree politically. But, she is entitled to post to forum.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4257269/posts?page=277#277


289 posted on 08/12/2024 5:45:30 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: babble-on

“If I were a Russian soldier in the Donbas, I think I would be a little worried about a two-front war coming my way soon. Might consider surrendering now.
If I were some poor Uzbek conscripted to kill women and children for Putin, I might calculate I will get treated better by surrendering to Ukraine than by failing Putin back at home.”

Truth! Too many windows to fall out of in Russia.


290 posted on 08/12/2024 5:49:00 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: bimboeruption

Their whining is pathetic.


291 posted on 08/12/2024 5:49:10 PM PDT by ANKE69 ( ✌️ 🇺🇲 Beware of zeeper doxxing. )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Do not look into the eyes of Laima

You have been warned


292 posted on 08/12/2024 5:55:18 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: bert

“The assault was narrow and is now proceeding on three roads in Patton like haste. The center assault seems to be heading to a nuclear plant. It was within about 25 KM yesterday and I don’t know about now

The forces are proceeding rapidly as were the Wagner force down south earlier.”

Thanks for the update.


293 posted on 08/12/2024 6:01:16 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: BroJoeK; ransomnote; aMorePerfectUnion; Alter Kaker; SaxxonWoods; marcusmaximus; USA-FRANCE
I noticed the Russians winning especially big after March 2022 near Kiev, Kharkiv and Kherson.

Due to the fog of BroJoeK, which follows you as a cloud follows Pig Pen, you missed that the Russians had reached an agreement with Ukraine and were withdrawing troops from around Kiev. And then Big Brother stepped in to prolong the war. Moreover, you failed to see the Russians execute a planned retreat as the conflict transitioned to one of attrition as the Western world started a failed plan to throw money and equipment at Ukraine in their failed attempt to make other than a durational difference.

I noticed the Russian Black Sea Fleet has won big-time in converting dozens of ships into submarines, moving the rest out of Crimea.

Because you operate in a fog, you failed to notice that Russia has a fleet and Ukraine does not. It follows the old adage, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Russia remains the undisputed king of the Black Sea, as Ukraine does not have one ship, much less a navy.

I noticed the Russian air force is winning by moving its planes further and further into Russia, out of Crimea, away from Ukraine.

Because you operate in a fog, you missed that some planes moved out of range of missile attacks, something Ukraine has no capability of doing. And you missed they remain quite capable of launching attacks on Ukraine. Moreover you missed that the Ukrainian power grid as been destroyed and Ukrainians are sitting in the dark, and just have to deal with heat and cold without electricity. And, of course, there is a Russian air force. FAB bombs stand as a constant reminder.

I noticed Russia is especially winning on the international front, lining up stellar allies like North Korea, Iran and China to keep Russia going.

The fog interfered with you seeing that they formed an economic coalition called BRICS+, implemented a SWIFT replacement, and moved off the dollar as the reserve currency. BRICS+ consists of Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia, and the United Arab Emirates. Saudi Arabia also participates as an invited member which has not yet officially joined. In its relatively short life, it now includes nearly half the population of the world.

It seems the fog of war led you to include North Korea as a member.

While Russia is involved in building such an economic alliance, Ukraine cannot pay salaries or pensions without being given the money to do so. They have become a beggar nation. Or as Napolean Joe would say, "We're winning!"

I noticed Russian Wagner mercenaries are even winning in Africa these days!

Hidden in the fog of war, Ukraine is losing to the extent that it may well lose status as a nation state, and that Russian Wagner are not mercs.

I noticed Russia is winning in the Donbas, taking one Ukrainian village after another, about a square mile per day, at a cost of only 1,000 Russian casualties and 100 armored vehicles per square mile.

Hidden in your fog is the source of your false statistics from western propaganda mills. The casualty ratio is vastly greater on the side of the Ukrainians, on an order of magnitude. Such is the result of fighting a conflict with no navy, a barely there air force, begged and borrowed equipment, and a general lack of artillery and shells, complemented by an air defense system that used to exist.

The latest claims say Russians won around 400 square miles of Kursk in just a few days -- astonishing victories!

Cutting through the fog, the latest claims say that the desperate Ukrainian attempt to take the NPP was stopped after 18 miles in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by Russians on three sides in a cauldron of their own making. It was reported that they are digging trenches and do not know how long they will stay. I can cut through the fog and say they will stay for the rest of the lives.

Oh, wait...

The Russian army is doing what armies do — killing people and breaking things. They are killing Ukrainian soldiers and breaking their toys. There is no waiting. There is no cease fire. There is no Minsk III. There is no electricity. There are no longer any lines holding. In a war of attrition, it is about destroying the opposing army and its toys. Ukraine is losing.

294 posted on 08/12/2024 6:12:03 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher

+1


295 posted on 08/12/2024 6:49:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: JonPreston

296 posted on 08/12/2024 6:50:20 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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Laima is a Baltic goddess of fate and good luck. She is mostly related with mothers and childbirth. Also, Laima is considered the patron of pregnant women.


297 posted on 08/12/2024 6:50:37 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Allegra; JonPreston

>>>>She and I may not always agree politically. But, she is entitled to post to forum.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4257269/posts?page=277#277<<<<
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How magnanimous of you mommy! Another one of your feeble attempts at showing everyone how equitable and honorable you are.

Too late for that! We’ve seen you in action for years now and you certainly don’t act like a Christian REVEREND, mommy. More like a Spawn Of Satan.


298 posted on 08/12/2024 7:18:42 PM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

>>>>Truth! Too many windows to fall out of in Russia.<<<<

Is that your idea of a joke mommy?

If it is, you’re about as much fun as taking off your clothes and running backward through a cornfield.


299 posted on 08/12/2024 7:39:32 PM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: USA-FRANCE; BroJoeK; Williams; UMCRevMom@aol.com; PIF; gleeaikin
No. Everything points to Russia is losing.

I take it insanity is your specialty and you have less than zero military experience.

After more than 2 years of war, Russia being nearly 30 times bigger than Ukraine, everyone had expected such a military colossus to take the entirety of Ukraine in less than a couple of weeks. Everyone one in Russia boasted back then “this will be over in days, Russia won!”, remember? Even Putin himself uttered the “winning in weeks concept”.

General Mark Milley is not everyone, and this was a Special Military Operation (SMO) consisting of a small fraction of the Russian army, not a full scale Russian invasion.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources

Gen. Milley says Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if Russia decides to invade Ukraine: sources

Milley told lawmakers that Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine occurs

By Jacqui Heinrich, Adam Sabes
Fox News
Published February 5, 2022 7:49pm EST | Updated February 5, 2022 8:37pm EST

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told lawmakers that Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine takes place, multiple congressional sources tell Fox News.

Milley told lawmakers during closed-door briefings on Feb. 2 and 3 that a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine could result in the fall of Kyiv within 72-hours, and could come at a cost of 15,000 Ukrainian troop deaths and 4,000 Russian troop deaths.

[...]

But look at Russia now! 2 years later:

They have lost more than half a million men (dead or seriously injured), a lost generation of Russians.

You are deliberately lying. The side without the artillery, shells, air force or bombs, with no navy and a crumbling army with unwilling recruits dragged off the streets, with all of its lines crumbling, takes the vast majority of the casualties. The figures you assert are beyond stupid.

Russia is part of a communist islamo-commie alliance (Iran and North Korea) and gets massive military help from them in order to crush Christian and anti-communist Ukraine... but even THAT doesn’t help Russia to win. It only makes Russia look isolated and scrambling - just to cope with a never-ending war.

Ukraine is the Globo-Homo kleptocracy led by a comic actor and other members of his tribe. The BRICS+ alliance contains almost half the worlds population. It seems like pure hell being isolated, along with billions of people. The Ukrainians, huddled in the dark, with no electric grid, are coping as best they can with a government that can pay neither salaries nor pensions until charity pours in to the beggar nation.

Russias entire budget is now 40% oriented towards war, but that does little to change the course in Ukraine. Russia is going nowhere towards success, quite the contrary...

Ukraine's budget depends upon donations. It can pay neither salaries nor pensions.

The Kremlin has been forced to put new taxes on regular Russian citizens, its coping with 9 percent inflation, and exceptionally low wages...

Ukraine has nothing to tax but the donations from non-beggar nations.

Russia has also lost its number two spot as a weapon exporter. France is now the world’s number two! And is making a fortune at the expense of Russia.

France did so much number two that the Olympic athletes got sick from swimming in number two. Russia has a collection of slightly used French military equipment. The French export it to Ukraine, Uncle Sugar pays for it, and the Russians collect the stuff. Complementing all that magnificent French hardware, with its tank featuring on forward gear and three for reverse, France can undoubtedly share its experience with surrendering.

Thanks to Putin’s irrational behavior, Sweden and Finland have now joined NATO. Is that a win for Russia? Remember, they went to war because they didn’t want NATO expansion! Hillarious.

Sweden ad Finland may be a game changer in the conflict. We will have to wait and see how they impact the Ukraine surrender ceremony.

The vast majority of EU nations are now paying their 2% to NATO, some pay more than 4%! All this was unthinkable before Putins botched invasion of Ukraine.

Last time, the combined EU nations last a few months against Germany, and Germany got whipped by Russia. Even the mighty Napolean and the Grand Armee was whipped by Russia. The botched invasion of Ukraine is so far vastly exceeding the grand successes of the Maginot line.

Europe has resurrected its weapon production industry.

Does this mean that soon Ukraine will not have to go without weapons?

Europe is becoming way more energy independent from Russia. The huge Russia-Germany pipeline destroyed !

Yes. The United States blew up the Nordstream Pipeline and now Europe enjoys American LNG at twice the price, while simultaneously enjoying the benefits of the economic recession that goes with it. It's a small price to pay to be free of cheap Russia LNG.

Russia has now lost 30% of its fleet in the area, 10.000 tanks, and countless of other military equipment.

Yeah, if you consider boats equivalent to ships. And Ukraine still does not have a single ship, much less a navy.

Thanks to Russia’s botched war, we now know that Russia’s S400 and S500 anti-missile systems are rather ineffective, they were hyped up beyond reality.

The S300 and S400 and S500 must be a little bit effective. There is no Ukraine aircraft flying the friendly skies of Russia. The game changer F16 is forward deployed near Odesa.

Thanks to Russia's botched war, Ukrainian cities have been leveled. Without choice, the Ukrainians just sit there and take it.

The 4 regions that Russia illegally annexed.. well they are still partly in Ukrainian hands... Right? Russia never succeeded in taking the entirety of those 4 regions. So not even THAT is a success for Russia.

The Ukraine has not even attempted to govern Crimea since it was annexed ten years ago, right?

LPR and DPR declared independence and were recognized in 2014. Russia recognized them in 2022. Russia entered into a mutual defense agreement with each. Ukraine continued its campaign of attacking ethnic Russian Ukrainians and Russia came to the assistance of LPR and DPR pursuant to the defense agreements, via a Special Military Operation. The operation to remove the Nazis from LPR and DPR is nearing completion, and the area will soon be denazified.

And now Russia is being invaded by Ukraine! Russia seem incapable to stop it.

Russia stopped the suicide mission in its tracks. The desperation diversion mission having failed, with the Uke in a cauldron of their own making, they now only await their annihilation.

You call all this a “win” for Russia??

As obvious as it was inevitable, even with the help of the mighty French.

Maybe you were just being sarcastic, and you meant that Russia is actually losing.

No, it was quite obvious from the outset that the Russians would beat the dog crap out of the Ukrainians. It is still a mismatch, even with the help of the help of the mighty French, and Field Marshal Macron and his mother.

300 posted on 08/12/2024 7:45:13 PM PDT by woodpusher
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