‘Furious battles are underway’: Kursk residents call on Putin for help after Ukrainian incursion

CNN ^ | August 8, 2024 | Daria Tarasova, Jim Sciutto, Allegra Goodwin, Tim Lister, and Ivana Kottasová

[Alter Kaker]

Ukrainian forces are pushing further into the Kursk region of Russia, in a cross-border incursion that surprised even American officials, multiple US and Ukrainian officials tell CNN.

Ukrainian forces are comprised of a mix of Ukrainian regular and special operations units, unlike previous Ukrainian operations inside Russia that often involved undercover units and local sympathizers.

The intention, say US and Ukrainian officials, is multifaceted, in part to disrupt and demoralize Russian forces and in part to divert Russian forces away from other parts of the eastern front.

Russia claimed on Thursday to have halted a Ukrainian incursion into its territory, but later said that some battles are ongoing in the Kursk region. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, units of the “North” group of its forces, together with the Russian Federal Security Service, the FSB, “continue to destroy Ukrainian armed forces formations in the Sudzhensky and Korenevsky districts of the Kursk region, which are directly adjacent to the Russian-Ukrainian border.” CNN cannot independently verify these claims.

Kursk residents, who live in the Sudzhansky District, recorded a video address to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday asking for his help, saying he has been misinformed about the situation on the ground and the Russian Defense Ministry’s statements about things being under control are untrue.

The address was published on a local Telegram channel that is dedicated to covering the latest news out of the town of Sudzha in Kursk region, which has been under Ukrainian attack for several days.

“These lies enable the local residents to die. The Chief of the General staff recently told you that the situation is under control, but today huge furious battles are underway in the Sudzhansky and Korenevsky districts,” one of the residents said.

“Sudzha was attacked, turned into ruins in hours."

[JonPreston]

My idea of joy is to get BroJoeK to respond to something with a Wall O' Text.

[JonPreston]

I've told you before, but your ping list includes MercyFlush.

He's gone. I played a part in having him booted and that's something that fills me with a great sense of pride.

Details available upon request.

[bimboeruption]

>>>>Aside from them being anti-Ukraine, this group is now disrupting discussions of the Trump election.

When you consider how they come to a thread and start insulting everyone, with no substantive comments.

I believe they are here to disrupt Free Republic and to create chaos in conservative social media.

At a certain point, it’s undeniable. They are more likely DNC or some other leftist disruptor group.<<<<

_____________________________________________

You, like other zeepers, get off on accusing pro-America FReepers of disrupting FR.

You, like other zeepers, when asked to name names and provide evidence, never do.

The true reality is it's zeepers who are likely Democrats/leftists.

Just take a look at the people who hold the same pro-UKE, pro-globalist, pro-neocon, pro-warmongering views as you.

[kiryandil]

He’s an angwey little feller, ain’t he?

[Allegra]

I didn’t know you played a part in that golden moment. Thank you for helping to have that nuisance mercifully flushed.

[JonPreston]

Yes. It’s very difficult for a paying customer to get booted from the forum, but to publicly suggest you report posters’ IPs to a govt agency - because you think they are Russian agents - is a bridge too far.

[woodpusher]

Fog of war is still far too thick to be sure what's really happening -- or who's really winning...

Let me help a brother out. Russia is winning. Russia has been winning since the start and will continue winning. As a military conflict, it is a mismatch. No amount of zeeper fog can cover up the mismatch.

[Allegra]

Whoa…I didn’t realize he was doing *that.*

And zeepers wonder why we don’t like them and find them kind of creepy.

[woodpusher]

Who said that?

General Mark Milley.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources

Gen. Milley says Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if Russia decides to invade Ukraine: sources

Milley told lawmakers that Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine occurs

By Jacqui Heinrich, Adam Sabes
Fox News
Published February 5, 2022 7:49pm EST | Updated February 5, 2022 8:37pm EST

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told lawmakers that Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine takes place, multiple congressional sources tell Fox News.

Milley told lawmakers during closed-door briefings on Feb. 2 and 3 that a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine could result in the fall of Kyiv within 72-hours, and could come at a cost of 15,000 Ukrainian troop deaths and 4,000 Russian troop deaths.

[...]

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

VIDEO: Information re. post topic: Kurst

Russians Lost 1000 Soldiers in a Single Attack in KURSK | Ukraine War Update
Artur Rehi
697K subscribers
8-12-2024 12:30 p.m. EST
24:34 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xhKJY5uCGY

“Huge convoy of Russian troops was sent to Kursk and they were all eliminated with HIMARS, which now can be used in Kursk. This whole truckload of troops surrendered.”

SOURCES:
1. A whole platoon surrendered:
https://x.com/officejjsmart/status/18...
2. Akhmat Kadyrovite surrendered wearing 2300 usd hoodie: https://x.com/igorsushko/status/18228...
3. Two squads surrendered:
https://x.com/officejjsmart/status/18...
4. This whole truckload of troops surrendered:
https://x.com/Tendar/status/182262581...
5. Another platoon:
https://x.com/igorsushko/status/18216...
6. Russia has no borders:
https://x.com/MavkaSlavka/status/1822...
7. Tie me up meme:
https://x.com/paigeinkansas/status/18...
8. According to plan PUTIN:
https://x.com/UKikaski/status/1821831...
9. List of countries that liberated nuclear countries territories: https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/...
10. Nuclear superpower:
https://x.com/Chris8Reis/status/18219...
11. Ukrainian soldier installs a sound system on a captured Russian T-72:
https://x.com/mouw5284/status/1822006...
12. Ukrainian troops advancing in Kursk- Geese:
https://x.com/warrior_na92602/status/...
13. eliminated with HIMARS, which now can be used in Kursk:
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/...
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1821860...
14. This was a whole battalion, bloodiest hit:
https://x.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/1...
15. Russian civilians situation in Kursk:
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/...
16. Russians are digging in, building a new defense trench line: https://x.com/Tendar/status/182266140...
17. Guevo captured, footage here:
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1...
18. List of liberated settlements by Ukraine in Kursk:
https://x.com/ukraine_map/status/1822...
20. Ukrainians are using robot dogs in Kursk:
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1822236...
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/...
21. Russian soldier describing the situation:
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/18...
22. Kursk operation was planned for a long time by the Ukrainians: https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1822184...
23. Russian state duma member speaks the truth about Kursk: https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1822...
24. Another KA-52 shot down by manpads:
https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/182220...
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/18...
25. Russia forced to send huge reserves into Kursk:
https://x.com/officejjsmart/status/18...
https://x.com/DefMon3/status/18220538...
26. UA tactics: https://x.com/PStyle0ne1/status/18221...
27. In a city: https://x.com/LdMila810824/status/182...
28. 10 km from Kursk city: https://x.com/officejjsmart/status/18...
29. Russian troops are training in Iran to receive new ballistic missiles:
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/...
https://x.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/1...
30. Shooting down recon drones with fpv:
https://x.com/Horesmi/status/18219775...

[Allegra]

[babble-on]

If I were a Russian soldier in the Donbas, I think I would be a little worried about a two-front war coming my way soon. Might consider surrendering now. If I were some poor Uzbek conscripted to kill women and children for Putin, I might calculate I will get treated better by surrendering to Ukraine than by failing Putin back at home.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "Comedian Dave Smith shocks Joe Rogan with his view about NATO expansion, the 2014 Ukraine coup, and how American policies led to the War in Ukraine, bringing the world closer to a potential nuclear World War III....."

I watched all 8 minutes of your link and my responses are:

• This is exactly how the US loses wars -- most notably Vietnam, it was the same old cr*p: somebody dug out old documents to "prove" that we shouldn't be there in the first place and we're wrong, they're right and so we have to give it all up, turn the South over to North Vietnam and walk away from the resulting bloodbath.

  So your video is the argument for defeat, which invites the questions: is defeat what you want, and if so, why do you think defeat is better than victory?

• Your video focuses on the Bucharest Summit in 2008, where Pres. Bush Jr. recommended NATO membership for Georgia and Ukraine, but it strips away all of the context, context, context leading up to the Summit and replaces actual historical events with ludicrous Russian propaganda.

• Here is some of that context, context, beginning with very friendly relations between Russia, the US and NATO:

  Timeline of NATO-Russia friendly relations:

  

  1. June 1990 -- The Message from Turnberry, often described as "the first step in the evolution of [modern] NATO-Russia relations", laid the foundation for future peace and cooperation.[12]

  2. November 1990 – Soviet Union and the western countries signed in 1990 the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe.

  3. ***See below for "What Gorbachev was promised in 1990"

  4. *****See below for "What Yeltsin heard in 1993"

  5. June 1994 -- Formal contacts and cooperation between newly-founded Russian Federation and NATO began following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council (later renamed Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council), and were further deepened as Russia joined NATO’s Partnership for Peace program on 22 June 1994.

     "In 1992, Russia and the former USSR countries were offered the opportunity to join NATO's ‘Partnership for Peace’ (PFP), and they all joined, including Russia.
     We hoped it would be an entry point into NATO and several PFP members joined.
     Russia even sent a brigade to serve under NATO in Bosnia in 1995. Things looked good in those days," Erickson tells TRT World.

     

  6. Decemberr 1994 -- In the same year, the Budapest Memorandum was signed where Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States made security assurances to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, in return for handing over by these three countries of their post-Soviet nuclear arsenal.

  7. May 1997 -- at the NATO Summit in Paris, France, NATO and Russia signed the Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security, a road map for would-be NATO-Russia cooperation.[18][19][20] The act had 5 main sections, outlining the principles of the relationship, the range of issues NATO and Russia would discuss, the military dimensions of the relationship, and the mechanisms to foster greater military-military cooperation.

  8. March 1999 – Chechia, Hungary and Poland admitted to NATO.

  9. Early 2000s – "What Putin Wanted":

     Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule
     Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance.

     George Robertson, a former Labour defense secretary who led Nato between 1999 and 2003, said Putin made it clear at their first meeting that he wanted Russia to be part of western Europe.

     “They wanted to be part of that secure, stable prosperous west that Russia was out of at the time,” Robertson said.

     The Labour peer recalled an early meeting with Putin, who became Russian president in 2000.

     “Putin said: ‘When are you going to invite us to join Nato?’
     And [Robertson] said: ‘Well, we don’t invite people to join Nato, they apply to join Nato.’
     And Putin said: ‘Well, we’re not standing in line with a lot of countries that don’t matter.’ ”

  10. May 2002 -- The NATO-Russia Council (NRC) was created on 28 May 2002 during the 2002 NATO Summit in Rome.
      The NRC was designed to replace the PJC as the official diplomatic tool for handling security issues and joint projects between NATO and Russia.[32]
      The structure of the NRC provided that the individual member states and Russia were each equal partners and would meet in areas of common interest, instead of the bilateral format (NATO + 1) established under the PJC.[33]

  11. March 2004 – Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia admitted to NATO.

  12. Russia-NATO relations grew hostile over repeated threats by Russia against its neighbors,

      Russian threats to neighbors since 1991:

      

      1. Azerbaijan (1990–1994);[1][2]
      2. Moldova (1992–present);
      3. Georgia (2004–present);
      4. Lithuania (2006);
      5. Estonia (2006–2007);
      6. Poland (2006–present);
      7. Belarus (2007);
      8. Ukraine (2014–present);
      9. Syria (2015–present);
      10. Turkey (2015–2016);
      11. Kazakhstan (2021–2022) ;[3] and
      12. Armenia (2022) [4] amongst others.[5]

  ***"What Gorbachev was promised in 1990"

  James A. Baker III’s Words on NATO Loom in Ukraine Standoff - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

  New York Times article describing US Secretary of State James Baker’s alleged promise to Michael Gorbachev about not expanding NATO into eastern Europe.
  There was talk but no formal promise, as acknowledged by Gorbachev himself.
  Rather, what Baker wanted was for Russia itself to join NATO, then problem solved.

  German troops assigned to NATO could be deployed there once Soviet forces withdrew by the end of 1994.
  Nothing in the treaty addressed NATO expansion beyond that.

  “Now remember, it’s not clear the Soviet Union is going to collapse at this point,” Dr. Rice recalled.
  “It’s not even clear that the Warsaw Pact is going to collapse.
  This is about the unification of Germany.”
  She added, “The expansion of NATO was just not on the table as an issue in ’90-’91.”

  No less a witness agreed than Mr. Gorbachev.
  “The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years,” he told an interviewer after Russia’s intervention in Ukraine seven years ago.
  The issue was foreign troops in eastern Germany.
  “Baker’s statement” about not one inch “was made in that context,” Mr. Gorbachev said.
  “Everything that could have been and needed to be done to solidify that political obligation was done. And fulfilled.”

  Having said that, Mr. Gorbachev agreed that NATO expansion was unnecessarily provocative.
  “It was definitely a violation of the spirit of the statements and assurances made to us in 1990,” he said.

  *****"What Yeltsin Heard in 1993"

  *****NATO Expansion: What Yeltsin Heard | National Security Archive (gwu.edu)

  Russian president led to believe Partnership for Peace was alternative to expanded NATO :

  Washington, D.C., March 16, 2018 – Declassified documents from U.S. and Russian archives show that U.S. officials led Russian President Boris Yeltsin to believe in 1993 that the Partnership for Peace was the alternative to NATO expansion, rather than a precursor to it, while simultaneously planning for expansion after Yeltsin’s re-election bid in 1996 and telling the Russians repeatedly that the future European security system would include, not exclude, Russia.

  The declassified U.S. account of one key conversation on October 22, 1993, (Document 8) shows Secretary of State Warren Christopher assuring Yeltsin in Moscow that the Partnership for Peace was about including Russia together with all European countries, not creating a new membership list of just some European countries for NATO; and Yeltsin responding, “this is genius!”

[BroJoeK]

Williams: "I believe they are here to disrupt Free Republic and to create chaos in conservative social media."

Good post, I think you're exactly right.

[JonPreston]

BroJoeK, you left this Wall O' text on my doorstep.

Thanks, but I didn't order it

Keep on Wordin'!

• ‘Furious battles are underway’: Kursk residents call on Putin for help after Ukrainian incursion

  08/12/2024 3:16:46 PM PDT · 274 of 275
  BroJoeK to JonPreston; Williams; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Zhang Fei; PIF; USA-FRANCE

  JonPreston: "Comedian Dave Smith shocks Joe Rogan with his view about NATO expansion, the 2014 Ukraine coup, and how American policies led to the War in Ukraine, bringing the world closer to a potential nuclear World War III....."

  I watched all 8 minutes of your link and my responses are:

  • This is exactly how the US loses wars -- most notably Vietnam, it was the same old cr*p: somebody dug out old documents to "prove" that we shouldn't be there in the first place and we're wrong, they're right and so we have to give it all up, turn the South over to North Vietnam and walk away from the resulting bloodbath.

    So your video is the argument for defeat, which invites the questions: is defeat what you want, and if so, why do you think defeat is better than victory?

  • Your video focuses on the Bucharest Summit in 2008, where Pres. Bush Jr. recommended NATO membership for Georgia and Ukraine, but it strips away all of the context, context, context leading up to the Summit and replaces actual historical events with ludicrous Russian propaganda.

  • Here is some of that context, context, beginning with very friendly relations between Russia, the US and NATO:

    Timeline of NATO-Russia friendly relations:

    

    1. June 1990 -- The Message from Turnberry, often described as "the first step in the evolution of [modern] NATO-Russia relations", laid the foundation for future peace and cooperation.[12]

    2. November 1990 – Soviet Union and the western countries signed in 1990 the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe.

    3. ***See below for "What Gorbachev was promised in 1990"

    4. *****See below for "What Yeltsin heard in 1993"

    5. June 1994 -- Formal contacts and cooperation between newly-founded Russian Federation and NATO began following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council (later renamed Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council), and were further deepened as Russia joined NATO’s Partnership for Peace program on 22 June 1994.

       "In 1992, Russia and the former USSR countries were offered the opportunity to join NATO's ‘Partnership for Peace’ (PFP), and they all joined, including Russia.
       We hoped it would be an entry point into NATO and several PFP members joined.
       Russia even sent a brigade to serve under NATO in Bosnia in 1995. Things looked good in those days," Erickson tells TRT World.

       

    6. Decemberr 1994 -- In the same year, the Budapest Memorandum was signed where Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States made security assurances to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, in return for handing over by these three countries of their post-Soviet nuclear arsenal.

    7. May 1997 -- at the NATO Summit in Paris, France, NATO and Russia signed the Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security, a road map for would-be NATO-Russia cooperation.[18][19][20] The act had 5 main sections, outlining the principles of the relationship, the range of issues NATO and Russia would discuss, the military dimensions of the relationship, and the mechanisms to foster greater military-military cooperation.

    8. March 1999 – Chechia, Hungary and Poland admitted to NATO.

    9. Early 2000s – "What Putin Wanted":

       Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule
       Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance.

       George Robertson, a former Labour defense secretary who led Nato between 1999 and 2003, said Putin made it clear at their first meeting that he wanted Russia to be part of western Europe.

       “They wanted to be part of that secure, stable prosperous west that Russia was out of at the time,” Robertson said.

       The Labour peer recalled an early meeting with Putin, who became Russian president in 2000.

       “Putin said: ‘When are you going to invite us to join Nato?’
       And [Robertson] said: ‘Well, we don’t invite people to join Nato, they apply to join Nato.’
       And Putin said: ‘Well, we’re not standing in line with a lot of countries that don’t matter.’ ”

    10. May 2002 -- The NATO-Russia Council (NRC) was created on 28 May 2002 during the 2002 NATO Summit in Rome.
        The NRC was designed to replace the PJC as the official diplomatic tool for handling security issues and joint projects between NATO and Russia.[32]
        The structure of the NRC provided that the individual member states and Russia were each equal partners and would meet in areas of common interest, instead of the bilateral format (NATO + 1) established under the PJC.[33]

    11. March 2004 – Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia admitted to NATO.

    12. Russia-NATO relations grew hostile over repeated threats by Russia against its neighbors,

        Russian threats to neighbors since 1991:

        

        1. Azerbaijan (1990–1994);[1][2]
        2. Moldova (1992–present);
        3. Georgia (2004–present);
        4. Lithuania (2006);
        5. Estonia (2006–2007);
        6. Poland (2006–present);
        7. Belarus (2007);
        8. Ukraine (2014–present);
        9. Syria (2015–present);
        10. Turkey (2015–2016);
        11. Kazakhstan (2021–2022) ;[3] and
        12. Armenia (2022) [4] amongst others.[5]

    ***"What Gorbachev was promised in 1990"

    James A. Baker III’s Words on NATO Loom in Ukraine Standoff - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    New York Times article describing US Secretary of State James Baker’s alleged promise to Michael Gorbachev about not expanding NATO into eastern Europe.
    There was talk but no formal promise, as acknowledged by Gorbachev himself.
    Rather, what Baker wanted was for Russia itself to join NATO, then problem solved.

    German troops assigned to NATO could be deployed there once Soviet forces withdrew by the end of 1994.
    Nothing in the treaty addressed NATO expansion beyond that.

    “Now remember, it’s not clear the Soviet Union is going to collapse at this point,” Dr. Rice recalled.
    “It’s not even clear that the Warsaw Pact is going to collapse.
    This is about the unification of Germany.”
    She added, “The expansion of NATO was just not on the table as an issue in ’90-’91.”

    No less a witness agreed than Mr. Gorbachev.
    “The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years,” he told an interviewer after Russia’s intervention in Ukraine seven years ago.
    The issue was foreign troops in eastern Germany.
    “Baker’s statement” about not one inch “was made in that context,” Mr. Gorbachev said.
    “Everything that could have been and needed to be done to solidify that political obligation was done. And fulfilled.”

    Having said that, Mr. Gorbachev agreed that NATO expansion was unnecessarily provocative.
    “It was definitely a violation of the spirit of the statements and assurances made to us in 1990,” he said.

    *****"What Yeltsin Heard in 1993"

    *****NATO Expansion: What Yeltsin Heard | National Security Archive (gwu.edu)

    Russian president led to believe Partnership for Peace was alternative to expanded NATO :

    Washington, D.C., March 16, 2018 – Declassified documents from U.S. and Russian archives show that U.S. officials led Russian President Boris Yeltsin to believe in 1993 that the Partnership for Peace was the alternative to NATO expansion, rather than a precursor to it, while simultaneously planning for expansion after Yeltsin’s re-election bid in 1996 and telling the Russians repeatedly that the future European security system would include, not exclude, Russia.

    The declassified U.S. account of one key conversation on October 22, 1993, (Document 8) shows Secretary of State Warren Christopher assuring Yeltsin in Moscow that the Partnership for Peace was about including Russia together with all European countries, not creating a new membership list of just some European countries for NATO; and Yeltsin responding, “this is genius!”

[Allegra]

[BroJoeK]

Russian A-50 and IL-22
est. at $500 million, shot down:

woodpusher: "Let me help a brother out.
Russia is winning.
Russia has been winning since the start and will continue winning.
As a military conflict, it is a mismatch.
No amount of zeeper fog can cover up the mismatch."

I noticed the Russians winning especially big after March 2022 near Kiev, Kharkiv and Kherson.

I noticed the Russian Black Sea Fleet has won big-time in converting dozens of ships into submarines, moving the rest out of Crimea.

I noticed the Russian air force is winning by moving its planes further and further into Russia, out of Crimea, away from Ukraine.

I noticed Russia is especially winning on the international front, lining up stellar allies like North Korea, Iran and China to keep Russia going.

I noticed Russian Wagner mercenaries are even winning in Africa these days!

I noticed Russia is winning in the Donbas, taking one Ukrainian village after another, about a square mile per day, at a cost of only 1,000 Russian casualties and 100 armored vehicles per square mile.

And now, just this past week I noticed that Russians are winning amazingly big-time in Kursk!
The latest claims say Russians won around 400 square miles of Kursk in just a few days -- astonishing victories!

Oh, wait...

[USA-FRANCE]

“Let me help a brother out. Russia is winning. Russia has been winning since the start and will continue winning. As a military conflict, it is a mismatch. No amount of zeeper fog can cover up the mismatch.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No. Everything points to Russia is losing.

After more than 2 years of war, Russia being nearly 30 times bigger than Ukraine, everyone had expected such a military colossus to take the entirety of Ukraine in less than a couple of weeks. Everyone one in Russia boasted back then “this will be over in days, Russia won!”, remember? Even Putin himself uttered the “winning in weeks concept”.

But look at Russia now! 2 years later:

They have lost more than half a million men (dead or seriously injured), a lost generation of Russians.

Russia is part of a communist islamo-commie alliance (Iran and North Korea) and gets massive military help from them in order to crush Christian and anti-communist Ukraine... but even THAT doesn’t help Russia to win. It only makes Russia look isolated and scrambling - just to cope with a never-ending war.

Russias entire budget is now 40% oriented towards war, but that does little to change the course in Ukraine. Russia is going nowhere towards success, quite the contrary...

The Kremlin has been forced to put new taxes on regular Russian citizens, its coping with 9 percent inflation, and exceptionally low wages...

Russia has also lost its number two spot as a weapon exporter.
France is now the world’s number two! And is making a fortune at the expense of Russia.

Thanks to Putin’s irrational behavior, Sweden and Finland have now joined NATO. Is that a win for Russia? Remember, they went to war because they didn’t want NATO expansion! Hillarious.

The vast majority of EU nations are now paying their 2% to NATO, some pay more than 4%! All this was unthinkable before Putins botched invasion of Ukraine.

Europe has resurrected its weapon production industry.

Europe is becoming way more energy independent from Russia. The huge Russia-Germany pipeline destroyed !

Russia has now lost 30% of its fleet in the area, 10.000 tanks, and countless of other military equipment.

Thanks to Russia’s botched war, we now know that Russia’s S400 and S500 anti-missile systems are rather ineffective, they were hyped up beyond reality.

The 4 regions that Russia illegally annexed.. well they are still partly in Ukrainian hands... Right? Russia never succeeded in taking the entirety of those 4 regions. So not even THAT is a success for Russia.

And now Russia is being invaded by Ukraine! Russia seem incapable to stop it.

You call all this a “win” for Russia??
Maybe you were just being sarcastic, and you meant that Russia is actually losing.

[ransomnote]

Western nations are beginning to *facepalm* as Zelensky has sent some of his best soldiers to die in Kursk. No one trusts Zelensky anymore - he set fire to part of the nuke plant in Russian held territory and tried to blame it on Russia. The hint is ther e- Zelensky gets more money/weapons are he's going to 'do' something to the nuke plant. Z actually claimed the Russians started a TIRE FIRE at the nuke plant. Really! that's the best he could come up with? Even supporters are starting to say it's time for him to go!

MY NOTES ON RUMBLE VIDEO: Burning tires at ZNPP? Elensky reinforces Kursk. Maduro amnesty for presidency. UK, big tech penalty (Zelensky)
RUMBLE.com ^ | 8/12/2024 | Alexander Christoforou

Posted on 8/12/2024, 3:30:47 PM by ransomnote