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Abilene mother outraged after salesman takes daughter with Down Syndrome to dealership to buy car
KTAB via Yahoo ^ | July 18, 2024 | Noah McKinney

Posted on 07/19/2024 8:47:58 AM PDT by grundle

ABILENE, Texas (KTAB/KRBC)- Abilene resident Angie Martin is a working mother of 7. She came home Tuesday night to a disturbing scene, her third youngest, 27-year-old Hope Martin nowhere to be found. Hope is diagnosed with Down Syndrome, and her mother has full legal guardianship over her, so when she was notified that a sales person with All-Star Honda had picked up Hope and driven her to the dealership.

Martin says she was beside herself as to how it could have happened.

“My heart’s beating faster just thinking about it. I got a text from her father, and he was like, ‘I got a couple texts from someone at Honda’ she had apparently called them multiple times and said I want to buy a car,” Martin told KTAB/KRBC.

Hope’s desire to drive is something she and her mother have discussed before. Martin says she believed she had adequately conveyed to her daughter that the decision is not up to her but rather State motor vehicle institutions, so hearing that Hope had carried out this plan and the sales person did not ring any alarm bells was upsetting.

“As you are as a mom, I was so angry that this had happened and that a strange man would have the audacity to come and take my daughter, who obviously is cognitively impaired, out of my home without my consent, let alone to do something so drastic,” said Martin.

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A mother is upset at a business because the business obeyed the American with Disabilities Act by not discriminating against her daughter who has Down Syndrome.
1 posted on 07/19/2024 8:47:58 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

COMMON SENSE HAS BEEN LEFT OUT OF THIS STORY.

IF THIS GUY WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF MINE-—HE WOULD BE ON VERY THIN ICE FOR HIS NEXT PAYCHECK.


2 posted on 07/19/2024 8:50:55 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: grundle

What kind of motion expects honesty or decency from a car dealership?


3 posted on 07/19/2024 8:50:57 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Seruzawa

That’s moron not motion. Sheesh.


4 posted on 07/19/2024 8:51:49 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: grundle

You might wanna look at it from a different perspective my friend.

Should an adult with Downs even attempt to drive?


5 posted on 07/19/2024 8:52:18 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Seruzawa

It has always been my contention that most car salesman are people that can’t qualify for a REAL job requiring integrity and morals.


6 posted on 07/19/2024 8:55:18 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: grundle

That’s a really good point.


7 posted on 07/19/2024 8:58:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: grundle

They highlight the mother as a working mother of 7.
Her third youngest child is 27.
I’m thinking that all of her 7 children are adults.

Certainly the 27-year-old is an adult.

I’m not sure the auto dealer should be selling cars to someone who does not have a driver’s license — but perhaps the daughter has a license. I don’t know.

If the adult daughter puts herself at risk (and convinces businesses to do things that (perhaps) they should not do), then maybe the adult daughter should be in an institution.

The mother sounds like she wants the world to babysit her adult daughter.


8 posted on 07/19/2024 8:58:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: Seruzawa

Exactly. I’d expect the car salesman to take a blind quadriplegic to a car dealership to buy a car.


9 posted on 07/19/2024 8:59:43 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: grundle

Sometimes, it’s very obvious that someone has Downs Syndrome, other times, it’s not crystal clear. The parents, of course, know, and cannot imagine that the whole world does not also realize their daughter’s condition. Many of the traits could, in the short term be explained away as part of some physical condition, such as MS, or Aspergers.


10 posted on 07/19/2024 8:59:48 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: grundle

if this young woman was a high-functioning down’s syndrome, how was the rookie kid salesman to know she was under guardianship? ... at any rate, should the “sale” have progressed far enough, a credit check would have quickly nixed a sale anyway ...


11 posted on 07/19/2024 9:00:13 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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I’m sure it happens but it’s the first time I’ve ever heard of a car salesman driving to a potential customers home and driving them back to the dealership.


12 posted on 07/19/2024 9:04:18 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The youngest might stll be a teen.

The more important aspect is that the DS daughter can’t sign a contract. The salesman should have realized it the moment he saw her.

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13 posted on 07/19/2024 9:05:20 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: V_TWIN

It has always been my contention that most car salesman are people
that can’t qualify for a REAL job requiring integrity and morals.


You’ll be interested to know that a Gallup poll ranking how Americans view the honesty and ethical standards of 21 professions, Congressmen were rated as having a “low/very low” ethical standards by 55 percent of 1,017 adults across the nation.

Only 9 percent said members of Congress have “high/very high” standards, while 35 percent gave the lawmakers an “average” rating.

Car salesmen were the only other professionals to get a “low/very low” rating by at least 51 percent of respondents.


14 posted on 07/19/2024 9:06:05 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray : Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: V_TWIN

I think that is more true of ‘used’ car salesmen than ‘new’.

For ‘new’ you just have to research ahead of time, check their inventory, and then bid it out to 3-4 dealers who have what you want (4 cars in 10 years this way) to get your best price. Then just turn down any ‘options’ they try to foist on you when you go in to pick it up. They figure out real quick that the faster they get you out they faster they get their commission and can move on to the next deal.

For ‘used’ you have no clue what you’re getting and they’ll lie their ass off to get a sale.


15 posted on 07/19/2024 9:06:07 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: grundle
I would like to hear the dealership side of this encounter before casting judgment. Something doesn't seem right.
16 posted on 07/19/2024 9:06:47 AM PDT by Keen-Minded
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“I think that is more true of ‘used’ car salesmen than ‘new”

Not in my experience 😏


17 posted on 07/19/2024 9:08:18 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: grundle

Car salesman are the bane of my existence. Years ago I wasn’t budging on my price with a salesman and he finally said something about not being able to feed his family & I suggested he get a job with a steady paycheck.


18 posted on 07/19/2024 9:10:57 AM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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The dealership said it’s not uncommon to provide transportation for someone who wants to buy a car. Also, the dealership ended up calling the 27-year-old’s father.

I don’t see any blame falling on the dealership. The speech of a young woman I know with Downs Syndrome is slow and her voice monotone, but you can’t make a diagnosis by a voice over the phone; it could be a mentally competent adult recovering from a stroke calling. The dealership seemed to recognize fairly soon that there was a problem and hence called the father.


19 posted on 07/19/2024 9:15:12 AM PDT by Kipp
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To: ridesthemiles

Many years ago I worked for a short time selling new cars.

I got yelled at once by management for not selling a car to a vagrant I passed as he was walking through the parking lot.


20 posted on 07/19/2024 9:16:50 AM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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